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Colorado voters passed Amendment J, removing language from the state constitution that defined marriage exclusively as a union between one man and one woman.

This 2006 provision, previously enshrined by Amendment 43, conflicted with the 2015 U.S. Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide.

Supporters, including LGBTQ+ advocacy group One Colorado, argue that Amendment J safeguards same-sex marriage in the state if federal protections are ever overturned.

Opponents, like Focus on the Family and the Colorado Catholic Conference, uphold traditional marriage definitions, asserting that marriage should reflect biological complementarity and support children’s well-being through both maternal and paternal roles.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Will be overruled by national ban next year.

[–] Pacmanlives 5 points 1 day ago

But states rights!!!!!!!!! /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

just like that? the governors don't have a say in that?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

States' rights are only valid as long as they support the Republican agenda...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The civil war was about states' rights

States' rights to force other states to return escaped slaves. Slaves were taking the underground railroad to the north where slavery wasn't enforced. The South responded by demanding the North return the escaped slaves.

The civil war was about bullying left wing states into violating their own laws to conform to what conservative states demanded of them.

[–] plz1 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Others have answered, but the reason why "states' rights" don't matter at the Federal level is the Supremacy Clause. States can be more restrictive than the Federal government, but cannot be more lax/loose. An interesting aside is the states that have legalized marijuana usage, where the Federal government has (as of yet) not cracked down on that. It is within constitutional power to do so, but just hasn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

woah, thanks for the lesson.

Perhaps a federation would be more suited for America instead of one government that decides for all even though every state has its own set of problems?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how it was designed. The federal government was supposed to be a weak organization only to organize between states and other countries. In practice, the federal government gradually increased its own power, culminating in the Supreme Court affirming it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This was a massive debate for the first decades of the country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can't you game that law by just phrasing permissive laws as strict?

"It is illegal for any officer of the law to make arrest or conviction based on marijuana consumption or possession".

Boom. You're being more restrictive, not being more loose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

As long as the Supreme Court agrees that that is restrictive, sure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lawyers hate this one weird trick! That wouldn't work because you're not actually being more "strict", you're still in opposition to the federal law. Being more "strict" means you're still in compliance with federal law, you just do extra stuff on top. Semantics can't change that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh no, we definitely follow federal law. Marijuana possession is 100% illegal here and anyone who smokes pot should know they are very naughty! We just don't allow cops to do anything about it.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Nope. Federal law is solely up to Congress to make it and the President to sign it (and the Supreme Court to review if someone sues). Governors only affect state law, and federal law supercedes state law.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

whelp and Congress, President and SCOTUS being in the hands of Republicans... this gonna get very uncomfortable

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Uncomfortable? People are going to die macniel.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While voting for this, I was shocked that the ban on gay marriage passed on 2006. Reminded me that even though we've had some shithead leaders over the years, at least we're making some progress.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

California passed Proposition 8 (one man one woman)in 2008! Thankfully we saw sense, and this time we passed Prop 3 (the right to marry is a fundamental right/ equal protection).

We may be a little screwy about the number line, but hopefully we're still a bastion of humanity.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch 4 points 1 day ago

That was just 3 years after homosexuality was legalized. They were still reacting from Lawrence v TX and prepping for the push for marriage Equality.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Well, give it a few months, trump will remove it all.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] TheBat 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same thought when I read about Missouri voting for access to abortion, and for Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just so dumbfounded by how many progressive constitutional amendments got passed but voted Republican.

I just can't comprehend someone saying, "You know, this asshole took away my abortion rights but since I'm voting to restore them, I guess he should get another shot."

These people think that abortion amendments are going to hold when their dear leader is in the White House.

[–] TheBat 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Americans are morons. That's it.

Apparently Trump's numbers are same compared to 2020 but something like 14 million Biden voters chose to stay home than vote for Harris.

Absolute fuckwits.

Edit: Trump lost 3 million voters compared to 2020.

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[–] Rapidcreek 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

That's why we're out of here ASAP.

Edit: Are queerphobes downvoting me or something? Sorry, I'm not going to stick around and watch my daughter get marched into a conversion therapy camp.

[–] WraithGear 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You know what? I can’t blame you. I just had my world view that most people are kind beings ripped from me. I plan on sinking with the ship and doing anything i can like a good sailor.

[–] FlyingSquid 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If I didn't have someone who depends on me 100%, I might stay. But she is my number one priority.

I always tell people who are reluctant to cut off narcissistic parents: you owe your parents nothing. You didn't ask to exist. They owe you everything.

[–] WraithGear 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] Lemminary 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

people are kind beings ripped from me

Covid was a big sobering moment for me as it materialized everything I read in history. I'm done with giving anyone the benefit of the doubt. People are fucking stupid and I can't be trusted.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In regards to your edit, I guess your name has some gravitas now and people will just downvote whatever you say in regards to those topics.

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[–] FenrirIII 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The question is: where? The US isn't perfect, but not many countries are. Is there still a country out there that's free and open to all?

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 day ago

Where for me is the UK, where I am also a citizen. No, it is nowhere near perfect. They also don't have a government that's going to force my daughter into a conversion camp. If that happens one day? Well, we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it. She'll be much safer there for now than she is here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I'm thinking that won't happen until around March, if not by then definitely in May.

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