this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Got called a removed by a cop yesterday. The hate is staggering.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Rule of law for thee, not for me.

[–] aaa999 8 points 1 month ago

i dislike wordfilters for this reason

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Frank Castle would shoot Trump in the face with a double barrel sawed off shotgun.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

oh, there's a toupée, I couldn't see anything before reading your comment

[–] sc2pirate 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Woah, this guy really likes Conan O'Brien

/s desperately trying to ignore what is happening in the world.

[–] AtHeartEngineer 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump is going to die of old age at some point, and he doesn't exactly eat healthy and work out

[–] PoopingCough 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah but he's full of hate and has access to the best medical care in the world; those types of people always love wayyyyyyyy too long Edit: live! live! Not love!

[–] irreticent 7 points 1 month ago

those types of people always love wayyyyyyyy too long

What an inaccurate typo. LOL

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt 20 points 1 month ago

Tell me it's a cult without telling me it's a cult

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey guys, def. do not decorate your firearms with anything. No pro-cop stuff, and def. not anything like "This machine kills fascists" either. If you ever use that firearm in an ostensibly defensive manner, a DA can and will use that decoration as evidence of 'state of mind'.

Also, Trump was in favor of seizing guns without any form of due process; he is not friendly towards the rule of law or rights in general.

[–] TwoBeeSan 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My unicorn pink glock says I wanted to be stylish when committing political assassination.

[–] Demonmariner 5 points 1 month ago

Cool. I always wanted a My Little Pony AR.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Looks like it was sold to a pawn shop, given the blurry wedding rings underneath. So even the original owner thought it looks like shit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Sold his AR to make a Cybertruck payment.

[–] militaryintelligence 1 points 1 month ago

No its brand new. Jewelry store sells guns

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

That skull has some dumb hair

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I do.. heres how to make a human killing device even more repugnant than just its mere existence.

[–] bamfic 5 points 1 month ago

No words? How about: "nazis"?

[–] buzz86us 4 points 1 month ago

I fully support Disney suing in this case

[–] BigPotato 3 points 1 month ago

That's likely Palmetto State Armory lower. They sell all kinds of Trump crap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I am not afraid of this cringe shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

is it cringe?

yes

am I any less cringe?

no, I scratched an anarchy symbol into all my home made guns