I don’t know. I live in one of the many western democracies that have maybe six or seven relatively normal parties to vote for; as well as a few more to the edges of the political spectrum. I think this question only applies to people in the US.
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Yup.
Who would have thought?
If someone tells me they voted third party, I just tell them that's great and ask what they're going to do now. Never get much of an answer.
Because it's so obvious. They are going donate a reasonable amount from their income to support that party. On the weekends they will canvas locally and participate in community events being sure to show their support for their third party. Then when an election comes up they are going to garner support from their party and have them finance someone local to participate in their local and state elections.
Why is that the requirement to vote third party?
Requirement? Of course not. Except why exactly would you do it if you weren't going to take it seriously?
I'll be going straight to work, honestly.
Why would they waste time trying to explain? The problem lies with your understanding, not their actions.
But look, I've voted third party a lot, and I could tell you what other activities I do to make the world a better place. If I did, would you stop saying this kind of thing in the future? Do you promise?
If you're doing more than just voting and forgetting, then the message wasn't about you. I won't stop asking people what else they've done, because how else is awareness of the need of democracy and public involvement supposed to be spread?
No, but the constant crowd-surfing can get uncomfortable.
I'm not up to date with American politics. Do you pre-drink before third party or is the second party enough to give you a buzz?
All I know is never go to a forth location.
Why would we?
It's just so menial compared to the huge impact your impeccable morals will achieve.
If speaking from experience, I for one haven't ever been met with applause like that, voting here is anonymous and, if anything, we are usually scorned for voting third party.
Ballots are secret. This post doesn't make sense
Its sarcasm. All the theatre about voting third party doesn't make sense because people could shut up and do that if they feel they want to make a change. The loud noise is most likely coming from people trying to derail one candidate or the other.
The thing about imitating annoying people is that in the process you become annoying
The point is to scare one of the main candidates to not support a genocide, so doing it silently would be against that. Tbh, it's also the same reason I think a lot of them are bluffing and will end up voting for one of the main two instead.
You're giving them way too much credit, it's about siphoning votes and nothing else. That is, among other reasons, why RFK joined the Trump campaign when the polls showed he was mostly taking votes from Trump.
That might be why the candidates are running, but it's not why people are voting for them. You haven't seemed to have applied any empathy or gone into the mind of a third party voter at all, especially in this election, which is a different situation because of the ongoing genocide.
Do y’all ever stop to ask, ‘what could we do to win these people to our side?’ Or do you think the condescension will actually work this time?
These people want me to personally convince netanyahu to stop genociding people in Palestine. There is no "convincing them."
I want our politicians to follow the law, and stop arming the genocide.
This is a very low bar. It’s pathetic they can’t reach it.
Ok, well good discussion. Sorry I couldn't convince you.
If I had not seen this video, or seen this specific and pretty obscure information presented elsewhere, I would be all in on third parties (though even then I'd understand that this election specifically is not the time), and there would be absolutely no reason for me not to be.
If someone's emotionally closed down to the fact that first past the post makes third parties impossible, then something needs to open them back up before they can learn it. But plenty of people just have never heard it, and there's no reason any normal person would have.
And if you don't know it, the reasonable assumption in its absence is that people don't vote third party because they're limp-dicks incapable of imagination and commitment.
All we need do is insert the critical piece of information. Those who haven't pre-decided beyond all reconsideration will see that it's a very different situation with that bit of info factored in.
I live in a state where the presidential race is locked in, and has been for my entire life. I know which party is going to take all of our electoral votes, every single time, no matter what I do. If I vote for a third party and help them get 20% of the popular vote (however unlikely that is) they'll be guaranteed a spot in the debates and on the ballots of all 50 states in 4 years. Its the only way for my vote to potentially matter at all.
Ever get the sense that just maybe, someone out there past the boundaries of the only nation that exists, probably fictional, certainly not worth having on your Christmas card list, might have figured out a different way to do things?
This comes off as pretty intense projection.
Yes
This year the cheering came after the recounts were done, and we'd won the province. Though they frequently do.
Talking about the BC NDP btw.