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From the article:

“registered Democrats account for about 58 percent of votes cast by seniors, compared to 35 percent for Republicans.”

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[–] shalafi 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My money says this race won't be nearly as close as the polls suggest. Harris voters are far more motivated to keep Trump out than his supporters are to keep him in.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (6 children)

And a large chunk of the younger voters aren't responding to pollsters

[–] IphtashuFitz 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’m 57. I can’t count the number of SMS messages from “pollsters” that I’ve ignored over the past few months. And if the huge number of unknown callers I haven’t bothered to answer is any indication, then I’ve ignored many dozens of pollsters that way as well.

[–] Vatowine 2 points 1 month ago

I'm 29 and have gotten zero lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm in my 30s in a blue state. The only text I've received was from a MAGA fundraising campaign disguised as a poll.

[–] elliot_crane 1 points 1 month ago

Also in my 30s in a safe blue state, and despite being a donor to several dem/progressive candidates, I have received precisely zero poll/campaign texts. I can’t help but wonder if it has something to do with me dropping traditional social media when I was 23 and never touching my accounts again. I’m pretty sure Meta and Twitter think I died at age 23 and I’m totally ok with that.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thanks for making me feel young again for not answering the six unknown phone calls I get every day.

I really need to move out of a swing state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I don’t answer any calls but I sometimes get polls via text message. I’ll sometimes fill out the latter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My wife got 16 texts yesterday. And we aren’t a swing state. I’m afraid to say citizens united has made it a nearly universal annoyance.

[–] rayyy 10 points 1 month ago

A huge chunk of informed traditional conservative voters in red areas aren't tipping their hand because of possible MAGA violence. Also, upper echelon Republicans want to defeat MAGA and regain control of their party but do not want to telegraph their votes.

[–] Dkarma 3 points 1 month ago

No one should.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

my phone has been automatically marking their texts as spam 90% of the time so I doubt most people are

[–] jj4211 2 points 1 month ago

I also read many of the polls would refuse to count the youngest voters anyway, as they only want to count 'likely voters' and for some the criteria is 'having voted in real elections at least twice', which is impossible for people under 22.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Harris voters are far more motivated to keep Trump out than his supporters are to keep him in.

I'm pretty sure that's wrong. Remember that to Trump voters Harris is a woke China-loving communist n****r who'll destroy America. They're straight up fanatics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hasnt trump been called a really old Russia-loving fascist rapist who will destroy America?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I mean he is to an extent, which makes democrats at best about as motivated to vote as Republicans who aren't put off by Trump's policies (they exist, surprisingly). However, many democrats also either hate Harris in particular or hate the Democratic establishment as a whole, so in general I'd say Republicans are more motivated. Which make sense; if democrats were more motivated than Republicans this election would be a cinch.

[–] givesomefucks 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In Pennsylvania, where voters over the age of 65 have cast nearly half of the early ballots, registered Democrats account for about 58 percent of votes cast by seniors, compared to 35 percent for Republicans. That’s despite both parties having roughly equal numbers of registered voters aged 65 and older.

The partisan gap is narrower than it was in 2020, when views of early voting were more partisan, and Republicans take that as a good sign. But the GOP still is counting on more of its older voters to show up on Election Day, while Democrats have more votes in the bank.

So not lagging as much as 2020...

And concerning because Biden only won by 80k votes and it's literally his home state.

[–] lennybird 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The gap in early voting was never going to be as wide as 2020. Trump was actively telling his cult to NOT vote early. Now they're telling them to do just that.

At the end of the day, the take-home message of this article is that Democrats are over-performing with seniors relative to 2020.

Trump is running 5 percentage points behind Harris among voters ages 65 and over, slipping back from the previous month, when he and Harris were tied with that demographic. It’s a major shift from 2020, when Trump carried 53 percent of the senior vote in Pennsylvania in a losing effort in the state.

[–] Dkarma 1 points 1 month ago

Not really. Trump was telling them not to vote by mail.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Women live longer than men. The geriatric population will naturally be majority female.

[–] Rapidcreek 3 points 1 month ago

That's one reason why I put the 8nformation from the article in the comments

[–] Sanctus 16 points 1 month ago

Doesnt matter, their goal is to send the election to the Supreme Court and undemocratically win

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NBC Early and mail in so far. 11am EST Nov 1 has 65 million votes so far. The battle ground only view is reflecting the OP's article for PA.

[–] Rapidcreek 7 points 1 month ago

If Trump loses Pennsylvania, his path to victory becomes very difficult. But, there is other media.

Recent polls show Kamala Harris with an advantage of 19 to 29 percentage points among voters who say they’ve already cast ballots, the Washington Post reports.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/31/polls-show-harris-with-big-early-vote-lead-despite-gop-gains/

[–] Burn_The_Right 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm gonna need an official JordanLund breakdown on how this affects everything.

(Not being sarcastic at all. I'm nervous about this shit.)

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