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[–] donuts 79 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Listen I love NMS for what it has become, but of course they would say that. They know that (the veil of) personal investment in their userbase's woes is good marketing. What would the answer otherwise be? "fuck your save, start over"?

And if they can't fix it, they can at least say "we tried".

[–] hate2bme 106 points 2 months ago (24 children)

I honestly don't recall any other developer ever saying this before.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think concerned ape fixed someone's save before.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

David Szymanski (Iron Lung dev) fixed Jerma's save live on Twitter and Twitch

[–] Zahille7 17 points 2 months ago

Deep Field (developers of Unfortunate Spacemen and Abiotic Factor) has actually recreated entire saves for AF that people have lost. The main director has popped into the discord to tell the people himself that he would fix the issue. I thought that was pretty cool.

[–] Sylvartas 17 points 2 months ago

TFW I spent hours of my life debugging an issue that exclusively happens with czech/hungarian keyboard layouts and no one remembers it (to be fair the game was much more obscure than NMS)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

CoffeeStain has fixed some crazy Satisfactory saves that went all the way back to update 2 from 2019.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

From what I've heard they also specifically used the insane "let's make the factory into a bowl of spaghetti with a radioactive giant swirl towering over it"-save to do some heavy optimization improvements.

Some players take games to insane lengths in their saves, and it seems those saves can sometimes be hugely useful assets to study, and learn a lot about the game when put into that kind of state.

[–] mipadaitu 11 points 2 months ago

Stardew Valley/Concerned Ape has a policy of fixing saves personally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Factorio devs fixed a bug that corrupted a 2 year old save from a guy, the limit now is a few sextillion, satisfactory took josh from let's game it out save to help optimize the game lol, that's the closest I can remember

Edit: found it https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?t=101341 the devs also fixed the save for the guy and later updated the game with a fix lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

i cant remember off the top of my head exactly which ones, but Wube will take bug reports from vanilla saves and modded saves and fix them all! Great Devs!

They even the concept (with permission) of someone else's game that they reengineered from the ground up to help multithread the game. They're simply amazing!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The bug was occurring when playing the same save for 19884 hours !

[–] JPSound 4 points 2 months ago

Even Nintendo did it with a Zelda and another time for Metroid. I dont specifically remamber which ones tho. Players would get soft locked out of progression and you could send it in and they'd fix it. That was many moons ago tho. No way they'd put that much effort into anything these days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The only other time I've heard of this was Stardew Valley. ConcernedApe is a treasure.

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[–] pressanykeynow 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What would the answer otherwise be? "fuck your save, start over"?

Isn't it the usual answer? If there's any at all.

[–] Winged_Hussar 26 points 2 months ago

For any AAA dev? Probably, or if you're Ubisoft you might also ban their account just for being needy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Well, usually if it's from a breaking update or something it's "saves from previous updates aren't guaranteed to work with future updates." They don't say "fuck you" but they usually also don't promise to fix it. I agree it's a business strategy though, but they should be commended for it or their business strategy stops being this.

[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I chuckled at "hawk"

It's over for me

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] NOT_RICK 21 points 2 months ago

That’s pretty cool of them

[–] SchmidtGenetics 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Why is this news? Do many devs not fix buggy saves?

I’ve sent more than a few to a few different devs at their request, it helps them immensely to have a buggy save, because sometimes they can’t recreate the conditions.

[–] einlander 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

Fix buggy saveing/save systems yes. Fix personal buggy saves files to a working state for a particular player? No.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I remember having a Far Cry 3 save bug that went unfixed for years (idk if it ever even got fixed). I would keep 2-3 different saves handy just to not lose all of my progress.

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[–] yamanii 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just this year we had Star Wars Outlaws say too bad, start over, to everyone that paid more to play early.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Classic Ubisoft...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Hawk tuahed the bug

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It would be nice if they could at least acknowledge the broken (removed?) PS4 to PS5 save transfer function. I was interested in some of the recent updates but found out those same updates had removed the feature I needed to continue my old save. So I just didn't play instead.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What an incredibly low bar for praise. "we'll fix our own bugs" - OMG!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you look at a game like fifa who has the same bugs over generations because they couldn't care less, it's kinda nice that someone at least pretends to care. But the bar is in fact very low in the industry

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

What bug has the Fifa games had over generations?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It IS an 8 year old game at this point though - many games don't get fixes beyond the first patch or 2.

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