Anyone who thinks Trump is the sole problem and that him being out of the news will solve all the problems is clueless.
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I know what you're saying. That the environment that gave us Trump would still exist. Sure. All the issues, both illegitimate (white resentment, racism, propaganda) and legitimate (wealth disparity, disillusioning political figures, late stage capitalistic despair), would still remain.
But that also gives too little importance to Trump's unique place in this. He is a uniquely cynical, sociopathic trigger that is exploiting this populist anger, while being so incompetent that he fails to solve any of those issues underlying it.
He thus is simultaneously perpetuating those issues, while feeding off of them - both creating and burning the fuel of populist anger. DeSantis, Vance, Hawley, all the other toe-headed power-simps who would step in to take his place would fail to hold that paradoxical balance for long - they think they can learn it, but Trump is built for it. That is Trump's unique skill, his singularly destructive, delusional, sociopathic egomania.
Like a wildfire - yes, when there are dry hot conditions, many things could start one. But it's also true that you may have been almost through the dry, hot season when a wildfire hits. And if you could have prevented that first fateful spark a week - maybe a day - longer, you could have avoided catastrophe and tragedy.
I think that's where we were in 2016, and we failed to contain it. It spread so far, that we were barely able to contain it in 2020. But if we can avoid it in 2024, if we can prevent Trump from sparking another wildfire, maybe the season could change.
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Also, if they think he'll just fuck off if he loses, they've not been paying any fucking attention..
I can't wait to see what he does when he loses.
That was not the claim. Just that Trump news are nasty and Trump is one of the few Republicans who has enough charisma to end up in the news. If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background. It means the Republicans need a new leader and whoever that is, is probably going to fail.
If he gets voted out, there is a good chance of him never running again and fading away into the background.
By no means. That's what people thought in 2020, and look what happened.
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Trump is one problem in a world full of problems, but goddamn will it feel good to be rid of him all the same.
I almost can't remember what the internet was like without seeing his name or face every day. I miss it.
The internet you remember before he came around is dead, never to return. It's not his doing, it's the complete and utter corporate takeover of the internet, and the funneling of 95% of the traffic to 4 sites. It's the algorithmic content presentation, and the curtaining of real friendship content. It's these platforms refusing to show you what you want, and only showing ads and boosted content, which is essentially an ad. The Internet is dead. Long live the Internet!
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Trump isn't going away, even if he doesn't win. That's what people thought in 2020. Now that Biden's president, Trump will just disappear, right? Wrong.
And yes, I know he said that he won't run again in 2028, but I don't believe it. His cult would beg him to run again, and he'd do it.
I think he'll be either dead or not lucid enough to run personally
We can all hope, and this time we're probably gonna be right.
But the Republicans aren't running out of people.
There's no reason to think Trump's end will make the bad half of America stop this push. There's a relatively good chance they'll find a sufficiently appealing new leader or puppet. If that falls, maybe you can rest and go back to casually provoking the religious right, playing catch with your rights, and still stay safe for a while. Members of the LGBT community dropping "Live and let live." in favor of "Use the right pronouns!" was a potentially fatal mistake.
While you're definitely correct that Trump isn't the last bigot who will run for president, none of them will have rhe same level of influence he did.
Trump is a literal cult leader. You have pastors like Shane Vaughn who literally call him "a messiah." He is literally worshipped. That's why he could get away with Jan 6th, that's why he'll have so many voters no matter what, it's a cult.
With the above said, the his defeat will dishearten his mkst fervent followers. I believe many of them will never be able to bring themselves to vote for another candidate, ever. Not all, but many. Republican voter enthusiasm will be at an all time low.
Following this, the infighting we already see will only get worse as would-be successors fight for the scraps that their titan left behind while others fight to leave Trumpism in the dust. Even if they manage to get a majority, they'd accomplish nothing meaningful.
Their entire plan hinges on Donald Trump's cult influence. The depend on his rabid base of supporters. If he loses this election, that goes away. The remnants will be fought over, but none of them will be able to touch the level of influence Trump himself had. His legacy will leave the Republican party fractured for decades.
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Or in prison.
- He did go away for a while, but not by choice. He was banned from Twitter, his reddit group quarantined, and news stations fucking finally decided to stop reporting on his every stupid statement
- Of course he won't run again in 2028, he'll be dead. The dude looks like he's knocking on ~~heaven's~~ hell's door right now.
Yeah, he's 78, and I doubt he'll hold up at 82.
The nazis pinned so much of their cult on his engorged, dying pus sac of a body that they may lose a substantial amount of steam if he loses.
A loss of steam that needs to be aggressively and ruthlessly leveraged to undo and bolster against as much of their nazi bullshit as humanly possible.
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I'm Canadian and can't vote in any American election.
I hear more about Trump than I hear about all of our politicians combined.
I just don't understand how people can get so excited all the time about this stuff. Like, being so invested in some rich assholes life that you'll commit treason and break into Congress to wander around aimlessly?
Why are you like this? Make politics boring again.
Please execute him for treason like they would have any person of color in his place.
Four options:
- He's finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life
- Natural death/diagnosis of dementia
- He's voted out
- He's elected and someone with better aim tries their luck
I don't expect him to live a full term even if he's not assassinated, and Vance is a fascist without dementia.
Arsearseinated.
He's finally prosecuted for his countless crimes and lands in jail for life
Fucking ROTFLcopter. Yeah right.
Agree with the sentiment for sure, but would also add that a lot of Americans like him, they LIKE what he said, he was heavily supported at last count. Even now he is supported substantially.
That is something many people need to think about. What happens next election? He won't be the last.
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To the people complaining about US politics overshadowing all other discussions. I too wish US politics were unremarkable.
Even if he loses again, I'm sure we'll be dealing with this piece of shit until the fucker dies. Then we'll have to deal with a new piece of shit. 😮💨
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i'm doing my part!
Voting him out will not remove him from your feed. You will hear about how the election was stolen again. About how his disciples tried to destroy the capitol or the white house or whatever, again. You will hear about how he was out on trial again. You will hear about whatever new crap he comes up with.
I'd rather watch him flail about after losing again than watch him execute his ~~mass deportation~~ genocide plans.
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We’re trying! Sadly we are wedged between two factions that are hell-bent on getting him elected.
One, purposefully- the other, ignorantly.
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“Dear ~~USA~~ conservatives…”
As if Trump is a source of all problems in the world
Getting rid of Trump doesn't have to solve anything. I'll still feel good to know he didn't get something he wants. That's petty, and that's fine. So is he.
Getting rid of Trump is a chore, not a victory!
That's the real reason not to re-elect Trump, there's no way he'll be relevant again. I mean fuck do you think he'd even alive to run in 2028.
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