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[–] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People really need to understand that for 3rd party candidates to actually be viable then they need a dedicated support base within the existing government structure.

You can't realistically vote in a 3rd party president until you've first built up an actually effective support structure of 3rd party mayors, senators, and other politicians to prove that your party can function effectively in government rolls and that it has the reach, policies and platform to actually appeal to voters at large.

(On god we need Ranked Choice voting though. Here in the UK and in America. Fuck First Past The Post, all my homies hate FPTP)

[–] NateNate60 10 points 2 months ago

Instant run-off voting isn't the only solution. Mixed-member proportional voting would basically inject new life into the political system overnight as the minor parties are essentially guaranteed seats if the electoral threshold is set to something reasonable, like 5%.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser 2 points 2 months ago

Agreed, this is what the Forward Party is trying to do. They want to help people get elected at all levels that will support and help make changes so that we're not stuck in some 2-party system.

Although, I think that approval voting or STAR voting is better than ranked-choice voting.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You need to fix your electoral system. It's even worse than ours in the UK, and that's saying something

[–] GraniteM 5 points 2 months ago

Fully agreed.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As a Canadian, the thing that surprises me is we somehow actually have an almost viable multi party system while still using FPTP. We've got 4-5 parties that routinely win more than 5% of the popular vote. From my very brief look at wikipedia, it sounds like you guys are in a kind of in a similar position.

I'm not well versed enough with the US system to understand why the they don't have a real labour party. Is it an organizational issue, or is it due to some additional facet of their electoral system?

(I'm not expecting you to answer, BTW, just putting it out there for anyone. :)

[–] CuriousRefugee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To be fair, they're not always spoilers. Sometimes they're irrelevant! Probably spoilers this time, though.

[–] SelfProgrammed 9 points 2 months ago

My bet is that we won't see it happen until we implement ranked choice voting in national elections.

[–] someguy3 7 points 2 months ago

Voting 3rd party for progressivism is the biggest self own in history.

The voting system would need to change.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Looks like lefty assumed the position. They're ready to BONE!

[–] hark 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also me waiting for a party that doesn't serve the rich first and foremost.

[–] mlg 15 points 2 months ago

Me waiting for ranked choice voting to be implemented by the two parties who most oppose ranked choice voting

[–] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Foreigner here. Don't you guys have a green party?

[–] Soulcreator 7 points 2 months ago

I suspect this meme is trying to make a statement about the intent of the green party in the US.