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13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

What the actual fuck?

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[–] ArdMacha 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Says the country that is 99% immigrant blood

[–] Noodle07 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the non immigrant blood is the one they spilled

[–] Lennny 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Etterra 3 points 2 days ago

Remember that a horrifying number of people, especially conservatives, are invaluable of caring about - or even noticing - any problem that doesn't personally impact themselves.

[–] MilitantAtheist 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You're all immigrants you idiots.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nuh uh. I was born here. My parents were born here. (/s, of course)

Let's not go back any further than that because it hurts the argument.

For context, I am 50% Italian, 25% French, 12.5% Irish, and 12.5% English. At least going off what my parents had told me. I never did a DNA test or anything.

It's been barely 60 years since racism against Italian- and Irish-American individuals really eased up. All based on xenophobia and an anti-Catholic belief. Before that, they may as well have been Black. Or worse, Japanese.

Tons of people alive today that experienced it first hand. Did all the lead in the paint and gasoline make them forget all about it?

Even still today we have to tiptoe around ideas like renaming Columbus Day. On the one hand, he was a massive piece of shit. On the other hand, it's morphed into the only holiday celebrating Italian-American heritage. I very much agree with the former, but if we are gonna go all-out on St. Patrick's Day, Italians should have a day too.

Maybe we could make a bigger deal out of St. Joseph. I could really go for a zeppole right about now, but that's really all I know of the day. It's a day for a zeppole.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

So a third of the country are Nazis.

Not racists, not misinformed, not uneducated, but actual Nazis.

In ~20 days, the most powerful and dangerous country on earth may well elect a party of Nazis to rule them.

God help us all.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A third of Americans are xenophobic bigots. Got it.

Meanwhile they proudly exclaim their great great great great grand daddy came in on the Mayflower.

[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 3 days ago

They also love to claim that they had a great-grandmother who was "full-blooded Cherokee" (it's almost always Cherokee) and if you check their DNA, nope. All European.

[–] rayyy 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which immigrants? They said that about Italians, then Irish. Seems the new guys on the block are always the bad guys until they aren't.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is an immigrant. Let's start there

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Literally African-American.

Can we bring back lynching for a day? Just for him?

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

A minority of voters. The stupid end of the intelligence bell curve.

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[–] mectag 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

As a German, knowing what happened in Nazi Germany and what Hitler’s beliefs and actions were at that time, this “rhetoric” is beyond troubling and disturbing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People forget very quickly. Just look at what's happening in Germany and Austria and the Netherlands and France and Italy. It's like everyone's ignoring history.

[–] mectag 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, and people who forget history are destined to repeat it. It’s sad to hear some people in Germany wanting to “get over” our history…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

America's entire Capitalist model is based on 3-month cycles of amnesia. It is designed to forget. Business could be run successful, profitable, and non-asshole, but the hunt for the next quarterly positive shareholder report by design blinds them permanently from comprehending history.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to be German. Just slightly educated.

Unfortunately, it's specifically poorly educated people that Trump appeals to. He says so himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0

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[–] 2ugly2live 113 points 4 days ago

Immigrants are the blood of the US. This fascist bullshit is the poison.

[–] madcaesar 13 points 3 days ago

Any issue any position, you can get 25% to agree. Another 5% is rounding error. Another 3% you get from trolls.

Just like that, you can get 1/3 support for anything you want and clickbait your way to victory!

[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The US has a growing fascism problem

It does not go away with Trump. I wish democrats would address it instead of pointing at Trump like he's an aberration

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Fascism is the problem. Trump is a very notable symptom, but many others are also to blame for the fascism issue, including some democrats. I believe this fixation with Trump is due to people wanting simple answers to complex problems.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, seeing as 1/3 of Americans are brainwashed by mass media into following whatever hype train is set forth by the rich, I can see that. If their favorite corporate owned and ran "news" told them they didn't need to eat, they would stop eating.

America is home to racist morons, has been since July 4th, 1776. Most of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, and the Senate and Electoral College were established to ease the slave owners/states that their "property" would remain theirs.

We've been a nation of hypocritical xenophobes who taught freedom and liberty while giving none of it to the majority, and every time we try to fix that they double down and make things worse. Not a single time has the US Government (or any government for that matter, but that's more a "whatabout" in this topic) given people what they wanted freely, and peacefully.

If we wanted to get rid of brain dead morons, we would solved it in the Civil War and Reconstitution. Second chance was in the 1960s when we were breaking down the barriers. Instead we still placated to the racists because we didn't want to be too mean to the racist, sexist morons who started the mess in the first place.

[–] maryjayjay 14 points 3 days ago

When my Jewish roommate told his parents he was dating a gentile they told him he was "thinning the blood"

[–] [email protected] 90 points 4 days ago (2 children)

From the "Great American Melting Pot" to this shit in one generation. WTF

[–] mipadaitu 73 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you think this is new, you haven't paid attention to history.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (7 children)

This is the US. Mutt Nation. What the hell does "pure" or "poisoned" blood mean here?

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's funny because we're almost all immigrants, so I guess we're all poison?

Ehh, then again there was that whole native genocide thing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (4 children)

No, no, no, not us. I'm talking about those bad immigrants. You know who I'm talking about .....

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Compare to George W. Bush, who said:

"We’re also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways."

and:

"Some in this country argue that the solution is to — is to deport every illegal immigrant and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border."

and:

"We must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans."

Source

I'm not saying G.W. was good or anything, but god damn that's a big change from what we see now from Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I agree.

America for Native Americans.

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[–] elrik 2 points 2 days ago

I searched for the actual question text and found:

Q19a. The immigrants entering the country illegally today are poisoning the blood of our country.

The split was 14% completely agreed and 20% mostly agreed.

I'm not as surprised by the results as the headline would have suggested because of the use of the word illegally. It biases the question negatively.

The 20% who mostly agreed may have agreed with some negative connotation surrounding illegal immigration while ignoring the racism of "poisoning the blood." In other words, if I put myself in the shoes of someone who feels strongly about securing the border, I could understand how those respondents would lean towards agree simply because of the use of the word "illegal."

To further support this interpretation: In the same survey, more than 40% of respondents favor or strongly favor building a wall along the US-Mexico border.

Maybe I'm just optimistic that only around an eighth of the country is completely crazy and that is just a less clickbaity title.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (7 children)

its the 100% venn overlap of racists. america is still pretty full up on people who hate other people for no reason but race

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who did they poll? How was the poll conducted? If it's a phone poll you're going to get old people, no one younger than 40 is going to do a phone poll. And most old people are conservatives. When it comes to polls, it's very easy to manipulate the results either in how it's done or how the results are interpreted.

[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 3 days ago

If only there were some sort of article you could click on and read which would answer these questions for you. Maybe with a link directly to that poll.

Alas...

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

1/3 of Americans are terrible people.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 11 points 3 days ago

Seems like the usual 1/3 that agrees with trump on whatever. Not gonna change.

[–] nucleative 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There are only a few counties in the world that draw the smartest and most accomplished from the rest of the world. The USA is pretty high on that list. This gives the USA an unfair advantage worldwide in several ways:

US schools and businesses get to pick from the best and brightest worldwide, promoting an atmosphere of high performance STEM jobs.

US replaces lost high education and high IQ population, since there is a negative correlation between education level and reproduction.

Finally, if you think in terms of winners vs losers, which I feel MAGAs do these days,, other countries lose their best and brightest, making them less competitive to the USA.

And of course don't forget that the vast majority of Americans come from families that immigrated, and few would argue that they themselves should be sent back "to where they came from".

No matter how you look at it, immigration is extremely advantageous to the USA if handled properly and an enviable position that many other countries wish they could be in.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

"think of how dumb the average guy is. Now remember that half the population is dumber than him." -- George Carlin.

[–] dual_sport_dork 26 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Bet. So why don't all you palefaces go back to England, Ireland, Germany, Spain, France...

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[–] InverseParallax 25 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I mean, how many people supported slavery and later, Jim Crow.

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