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[–] [email protected] 134 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone who does R&D testing on plastics that are used in medical devices, I have some insight. Of course the type of plastic matters, but all plastics use carcinogenic chemicals during the manufacturing/extrusion process.

To make most plastic, a polymer resin is mixed with additives such as solvents, plasticizers, and stabilizers at high temperatures. Ideally, you want the additives to evaporate out during production so that you're left with just the newly formed plastic.

But some of these additives get trapped in tiny air pockets between polymer chains. When they're reheated, the polymer chains relax and release the volatile, carcinogenic additives into the air.

This is likely where the toxicity is coming from, not the polymer chain itself. So regardless of the type of plastic used, reheating the polymer during 3D printing will release some volatile additives.

[–] noobface 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Comments like this is why I come to Red....Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Man, how much of a pain must it be to shave around those giant moles every day?

[–] werefreeatlast 2 points 1 day ago

Just make a tape mask around the mole and apply hydrochloric acid with a cue tip. That mole is good as gone!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Then again his days included shaving & going to the pub (the same spot), so prob time wasn't that much of an issue.

[–] univers3man 4 points 2 days ago

The hunt for red lemmytober

[–] FauxPseudo 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I misread the headline. I thought 3D printers were evolving into crabs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

As is tradition.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 days ago (4 children)

tl;dr maybe don’t sleep where you print

Does this mean that 3D printing causes cancer? No, not by a long shot. But, it’s clear that under lab conditions, exposure to either PLA or ABS particulates seems to be related to some of the cell changes associated with carcinogenesis.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Bro wth I have my printer in my room. I print pla. Fucking hell I gotta move this thing somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Also, don't shit where you eat.

[–] KazuyaDarklight 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dang, my nightstand printer is such a great white noise generator too. ;p

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago

You joke but...

[–] untorquer 2 points 1 day ago

Even then it's safer than playing with rocks it seems.

[–] utopiah 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Printing using PLA in the basement, with a filter, not being in the room until the print is actually done. I feel pretty safe.

[–] Numenor 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but what about your gimp?

[–] werefreeatlast 9 points 1 day ago

I do have the latest gimp installed! Thanks for asking! Gimp.org everyone!

[–] werefreeatlast 2 points 1 day ago

I wonder when the government will control water washable print resins.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There was that video from a few months ago from... Prints with layers I think? That looked at the actual particulate and volatile counts and found that PLA actually gave off very little? Other plastics were much worse.

So remember that the particle counts matter as much as the danger of the particles.

(Disclaimer, that was a video, not a peer reviewed scientific paper)

[–] Kushan 16 points 2 days ago

Made with Layers (Thomas Sanladerer)

[–] scutiger 9 points 2 days ago

There was also a video a while back from one maker channel where the guy said that he got some type of nasty poisoning from breathing in fumes from ABS printing. Fortunately ABS isn't as popular of a material as it once was, now that there are better alternatives, but I'm sure many of them still put out some nasty fumes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

What does this all mean to the home gamer?

Oooook…..

Plot twist!

This took an interesting turn!

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