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[–] [email protected] 137 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As someone who does R&D testing on plastics that are used in medical devices, I have some insight. Of course the type of plastic matters, but all plastics use carcinogenic chemicals during the manufacturing/extrusion process.

To make most plastic, a polymer resin is mixed with additives such as solvents, plasticizers, and stabilizers at high temperatures. Ideally, you want the additives to evaporate out during production so that you're left with just the newly formed plastic.

But some of these additives get trapped in tiny air pockets between polymer chains. When they're reheated, the polymer chains relax and release the volatile, carcinogenic additives into the air.

This is likely where the toxicity is coming from, not the polymer chain itself. So regardless of the type of plastic used, reheating the polymer during 3D printing will release some volatile additives.

[–] noobface 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Comments like this is why I come to Red....Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Man, how much of a pain must it be to shave around those giant moles every day?

[–] werefreeatlast 2 points 2 months ago

Just make a tape mask around the mole and apply hydrochloric acid with a cue tip. That mole is good as gone!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Then again his days included shaving & going to the pub (the same spot), so prob time wasn't that much of an issue.

[–] univers3man 4 points 2 months ago

The hunt for red lemmytober

[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 months ago (4 children)

tl;dr maybe don’t sleep where you print

Does this mean that 3D printing causes cancer? No, not by a long shot. But, it’s clear that under lab conditions, exposure to either PLA or ABS particulates seems to be related to some of the cell changes associated with carcinogenesis.

[–] KazuyaDarklight 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dang, my nightstand printer is such a great white noise generator too. ;p

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

You joke but...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bro wth I have my printer in my room. I print pla. Fucking hell I gotta move this thing somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You could make an enclosure. You'll get better prints too

[–] untorquer 2 points 2 months ago

Even then it's safer than playing with rocks it seems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Also, don't shit where you eat.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There was that video from a few months ago from... Prints with layers I think? That looked at the actual particulate and volatile counts and found that PLA actually gave off very little? Other plastics were much worse.

So remember that the particle counts matter as much as the danger of the particles.

(Disclaimer, that was a video, not a peer reviewed scientific paper)

[–] Kushan 16 points 2 months ago

Made with Layers (Thomas Sanladerer)

[–] scutiger 9 points 2 months ago

There was also a video a while back from one maker channel where the guy said that he got some type of nasty poisoning from breathing in fumes from ABS printing. Fortunately ABS isn't as popular of a material as it once was, now that there are better alternatives, but I'm sure many of them still put out some nasty fumes.

[–] FauxPseudo 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I misread the headline. I thought 3D printers were evolving into crabs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

As is tradition.

[–] utopiah 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Printing using PLA in the basement, with a filter, not being in the room until the print is actually done. I feel pretty safe.

[–] Numenor 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but what about your gimp?

[–] werefreeatlast 9 points 2 months ago

I do have the latest gimp installed! Thanks for asking! Gimp.org everyone!

[–] werefreeatlast 2 points 2 months ago

I wonder when the government will control water washable print resins.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

What does this all mean to the home gamer?

Oooook…..

Plot twist!

This took an interesting turn!

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