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s2e20 "A Piece of the Action"

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[–] homesweethomeMrL 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone on here said something like trigger discipline wasn’t really a thing until the late 80’s. Which sounds right somehow. All the cop shows and westerns before that, they ran around holding the trigger.

This is in the 20’s right? So my man is just being period-accurate, which is highly logical.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Secondly, even in real life, gun ownership isn't a thing in modern societies, only in backward third world countries

If the majority of modern humans don't know what trigger discipline is, why would Spock?

[–] Mostly_Gristle 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because they still have guns in Star Trek, and Spock and his crewmates carry them all the time? Those TOS phaser pistols don't even have trigger guards, so it'd be logical to think trigger discipline would still be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe he's too used to whatever science-magic they have in place as a safety

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You never heard of a school phasing right enough

[–] superduperpirate 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Weapon safety rule number 3 Mr Spock: keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you’re ready to fire.

You may be a Vulcan but I will still kick you off my firing range if you don’t unfuck yourself.

[–] ummthatguy 21 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

WERE YOU ABOUT TO CALL ME AN ASSHOLE?!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weapon safety rule 1 is to have fun

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weapon safety rule #2 is DO NOT talk about weapon safety

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Weapon safety rule #4: Ignore rule #3.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I think the Vulcan version of that saying is, "keep your booger hook off the bang switch!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How about that muzzle pointing at his face? Damn Spock, come on dude.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's Spock. That is trigger discipline. Spock is so disciplined, that trigger is more disciplined than of his finger weren't on it.

[–] kamenlady 4 points 1 month ago

Also, with discipline no one gets a piece of the action.

[–] ummthatguy 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, lordy. The marshmelon sequence. I keep trying to forget it.

Not this marshmelon, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A surprisingly good movie actually:-).

McCoy's paying someone to alter the archival files (but forgetting to also alter the crosslinks) to mispronunce words aside.

[–] ummthatguy 3 points 1 month ago

It's just such an odd way to transition during their slingshot time travel. On the plus side, it gave me an idea for tomorrow. So, thanks!

[–] aeronmelon 10 points 1 month ago

He was about to kill the mofo talking to Kirk, he knew exactly what he was doing.

[–] T00l_shed 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, are mechanic triggers even a thing in the federation?

[–] ummthatguy 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

On the phaser rifles, totally.

Aaand here's Ezri being another bad example:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Dax is trained in Klingon trigger discipline.

[–] VindictiveJudge 6 points 1 month ago

I'm guessing that's something like, "Anything you might potentially point the gun at, even by accident, is something you want dead anyway, so always keep your finger on the trigger to save time."

[–] Apeman42 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That tracks. It does seem like there could have been a list of "213 things Curzon Dax is no longer allowed to do in Federation space", a la Skippy's List.

[–] aeronmelon 3 points 1 month ago

I haven’t seen that in YEARS!

I would be honored to be called Dr. Feelgood.

[–] aeronmelon 4 points 1 month ago

Kurzon shot from the hip. You just know it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can totally believe that, by the 24th century, phasers are smart enough to fire by intention, not by some crude electromagnetical switch. Triggers are contact points, not switches.

They have technology that can literately disassemble things at the atomic level, from a distance and - even more impressive - correctly re-assemble them. I'd not be shocked if their firing systems had advanced beyond what we have today.

[–] aeronmelon 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They at least employ such technology with the LCARS displays.

On the TNG episode Hero Worship, Data remarks how simply slamming your hands down onto a control panel won’t actually trigger any of the keys because the surface understands the difference between deliberate finger presses and simple force.

[–] ummthatguy 2 points 1 month ago

A fair argument. I just notice shit like that.

[–] T00l_shed 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's hard to see but it doesn't look to me like a trigger of today. I could see trigger in the future being a touch sensitive button that has some other safety features built in.

[–] ummthatguy 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Top 2 are triggers, VOY rifle appears to be a button.

[–] T00l_shed 5 points 1 month ago

I stand corrected! Then yes, bad Spock!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry, he only has it set on "stun".

[–] ummthatguy 7 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Oh god I just shot Marvin in the face

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Precisely why no one should have them; the average person is incredibly stupid. Similar to the cop in the story you linked, a fucking dumb ass piece of shit idiot.