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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] DarkCloud 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can go right next to the trophy for highest incarceration rates.

[–] Diplomjodler3 26 points 1 month ago

USA! USA! USA!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's pretty cool how the richest nation in the history of the world can't take care of people. /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Not can't--won't.

[–] Dearth 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If every church in America housed 2.5 unhoused people the crisis would be solved overnight.

Who am i kidding though, American churches don't exist to help people they exist to ~~tax~~ tithe people

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

When I feed the poor, I'm called a Saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, I'm called a communist.

The quote is by a priest from South America. I think about that alot when I think about church.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Only monarchists think communist is an insult.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No, see, feeding the poor is illegal.

[–] BowtiesAreCool 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, a lot of small community churches or other religious shelters seem to do a lot more than anyone else about the problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Debatable.

I work for a church. We do a LOT for the community. Free lunches under the bridge. Park clean ups every season. After school programs for kids.

But in no way are we even close to doing as much good as actual organized programs that have real leadership and get funding.

[–] Pilferjinx 2 points 1 month ago

Churches are a social hate group. I love faith, especially when you have to do the spiritual work yourself, but organized faith corrupts the mind and soul.

[–] Maggoty 27 points 1 month ago

Don't worry, we have a fix for this.

We banned them from the streets.

[–] NatakuNox 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Definitely a gross under count of the amount of homeless people. I'd imagine due to the government only counting occupied beds in shelters, the homeless they can physically count on one day, and not the number of incarcerated homeless. The amount is three times higher!

[–] Warl0k3 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's not really how it works, the census bureau is extremely thorough - they send people into encampments regularly, work with homeless charities of all kinds, etc. These counts are estimates unless it's a federal census year (when they absolutely do count every individual person that they possibly can), but they're not going to be wildly inaccurate.

The much bigger issue is that these numbers appear to be limited to city limits or greater city area, and that's where the discrepancy is gonna show up. Most homeless people dont live in cities, and camps are often established on conveniently unincorporated land so they dont have to be counted. Bureaucratic bastardry at its finest.

[–] NatakuNox 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Warl0k3 1 points 1 month ago

Not sure what your point is?

[–] jaybone 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

$650k and still homeless. Housing market is out of control.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Housing should he a necessity of life. Corporations shouldn’t be allowed to own homes. Limit individuals to 5.

If corporations want to own “homes” then they can build an apartment complex.

[–] Surp 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Id say even max two houses. No one needs more than one anyways. The second can be for the rich assholes that need vacation homes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That or limit it to being outside a certain radius, so you can have your house in the city and a second property out in the woods for the weekend as long as it's, for example, 50 miles away or more and then if you want a third property it needs to be at least 50 miles away from the other two and so on. Make it impractical enough that second properties are only cottages, not rental units in the same city.

[–] General_Effort -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you're joking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why do you think I'm joking? People should be allowed to own something out of town for the weekend if they want but they'll think about it twice if they can't own both a rental unit and their main house in the same city, in the end it will force them to live in their rental unit along with the people renting from them, forcing them to actually care for their property.

They won't want to own a shit load of properties either because maintaining then will be too impractical as none of them are close to one another.

[–] General_Effort 2 points 1 month ago

It sounded kinda like: Let's make people sell the properties they rent out so that wealthy people can buy vacation homes.

The idea is guaranteed to make homelessness worse, so it seems natural that someone might mock it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or control the type of ownership based on the number of doors. 1 to 4 doors > private ownership. 5 to 8 doors > corporation or cooperatives. 9 doors or more > cooperatives/non profit/State corporation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The corporate bots downvoted you

[–] jaybone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which they are already doing everywhere in my area. I’d say we should also limit their ownership of apartment complexes. Though that’s a tougher problem to solve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What area…if you don’t mind getting bing up some of that sweet sweet privacy

[–] jaybone 2 points 1 month ago

SF Bay Area, East bay. Everything is apartments. Seems like all new developments are apartments, not houses. And obviously those will be owned by corporations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

650k people are homeless. Has nothing to do w housing market or salary.

“Data collected and reviewed by The Wall Street Journal from more than 250 homeless organizations have counted at least 550,000 homeless people so far, a 10 percent rise from last year’s reports. The numbers gathered from cities and rural areas show homelessness as it was on a single night earlier this year.

The upward trend means that the US will probably reach and pass the 2023 estimate of 653,000 homeless people. It’s the highest number since the government began sharing such data in 2007.”

[–] Voytrekk 5 points 1 month ago

I was confused by the title at first too. It should probably be "US is on track to set a new record for homelessness with over 650K people living on the streets".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WE'RE NUMBER ONE! LETS GOOO!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

U S A!!! U S A!!! U S A!!!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

It'll get worse, so don't go making any bets or anything. I know being an optimist is cool and all, but seriously.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

WHOOOO! USA #1!!!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So like 1 in ~~50~~ 500 pll is homeless? That's crazy. Ther is not even a significant crisis or war directly affecting the US.

~~Edit: I can't read~~

Edit II : OK, reading was fine (on the first go) I just did my math with 1million = 100* thousand ... I am tired and have a cold, please excuse my many fumbles in this comment xD.

[–] Throw_away_migrator 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you're off by a factor of 10. 650k out of 330 million is about 1 in 500. It's still way too many people, don't get me wrong, just wanted to clarify.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Thanks, yeah I'm not so fovused atm. But defenetly still too many homless folk.

[–] psycho_driver 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In San Diego sure but what about the rest of the country?

[–] Maggoty 2 points 1 month ago

Ouch. Just ouch.

[–] PushButton 3 points 1 month ago

See the guy in orange on the left?

Now, what are those toddlers dressed in fluo doing next to him?