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Just curious because I don’t see people talk about it a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

17 here, my grandparents used it before switching 1-2 years ago. Can't imagine the ads are any better that less people watch it and staticy stations were annoying.

I myself don't watch TV that much, mainly YouTube or music. In the last month I've watched ~3 episodes of impractical jokers on the family TV, and 8 episodes of South Park on my Steamdeck before bed.

[–] QuikxSpec 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You can also watch Pluto TV. No sign in or fee. Lots of 24:7 dedicated channels for shows like Midsommer Murders, MST3K, Americas Test Kitchen, etc as well as variety genre channels

[–] lohky 3 points 4 hours ago

Are you my wife? Since we discovered Pluto, our TVs are constantly flipping between America's Test Kitchen, MST3K, Antiques Roadshow and Jersey Shore if we're feeling especially rowdy.

There's also a Mr Rodger's Neighborhood channel that our we leave running in the mornings for kid and dogs when we leave hah.

[–] njm1314 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm aware of it I'm also aware that I live in an area that can't get any freaking signals at all. Not sure why that's true though.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The transition from analog to digital really hurt my desire to watch OTA TV (you caught me! I'm not under 25).

With analog broadcast, any weak signal or interference produced a little bit of static, but you could still see and hear what was being said. With digital, any weak signal means dropped frames and silence or weird glitches. You completely lose what's happening. Even with a powered antenna, I have frequent issues with weak signal. I could probably try to get a rooftop antenna installed, but there's no guarantee it would be any better. It's just easier to find other entertainment at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Ditto. We went from having five channels, one snowy on a bad day, plus a bonus 6th channel when the stars aligned, to two channels at best.

The broadcasters and regulators took a basic fact about digital signals "We can get a better quality signal with less transmission power" and saw it as a challenge to set up their digital transmitters with the most conservative estimate of minimum power required. I haven't studied well enough for my amateur radio exam to know if I'm comparing apples to oranges, but I'm still shocked to see descriptions of transmitter power go from 100kW in one case to below 20kW.

[–] ch00f 3 points 8 hours ago

I hear that. We have an attic yagi aimed directly at Seattle from 10 miles away, and we still get the occasional dropout even on our strongest signals.

Still when it works, it works really well. We watch Nature and Nova on Sundays, and the wildlife footage looks incredible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Linear TV over an antenna? Well that's only technically free. You'd need to buy a receiving device - that costs money. You need to watch ads - that costs time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago

If you have a TV, you likely already have the receiving device. Antenna can cost, or you can play around with wire length and orientation.

[–] ch00f 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well considering many paid tiers of streaming services also serve ads, I consider it free-er than that.

Also, most of the hardware is already inside your TV. You just need a $20 antenna.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I have no TV. I watch all my movies and series via a big PC screen which has no TV functionality.

[–] ch00f 1 points 8 hours ago

Ah. Well if your PC is static, a USB tuner isn't too much. Plus then you have a built-in DVR.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

"Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free

You are a pirate!"

[–] 11111one11111 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

A $10 antenna to watch NFL games is so much more convenient and better quality than any of the pirated streaming options. Broadcast TV trumps Pirating for live shit 100%. Pirate everything else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Yeah but then you have to watch football. Why go through the suffering? Lol

[–] spicytuna62 6 points 11 hours ago

Living in tornado alley, having a TV antenna and a weather radio is almost a requirement. If the Internet gets knocked out, OTA still works. Also, my Internet is shit so I wouldn't rely on it if a tornado is bearing down on my location, but I do also love watching 9Β½ hours of nonstop tornado coverage when nasty storms might come my way.

Outside of that, I know to tune in at about :15 past the hour during newscasts to catch the weather report, which gets uploaded to their website later anyway. If the football game is on, I might catch that if I care to watch. I don't really watch OTA otherwise.

But I'm 32 lol

[–] [email protected] 42 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

I don't care about cable TV. In Hungary nearly all news broadcasts over here are just propaganda machines and spitting out literal garbage content. Also the ads.

UbO + Internet + torrent goes br

23 year old here btw

[–] ch00f 5 points 9 hours ago

See this is what I’m talking about. Cable is not the same as over the air. I’m not sure how your cable works in Hungary content/pricing-wise, but I do find it funny that a lot of younger people in this thread are lumping the two together.

[–] 11111one11111 1 points 8 hours ago

What about sports tho?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

This (applies everywhere). Besides it's all aimed at boomers and not at all engaging. People who are internet savvy can easily find better free content.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

I love my rabbit ears. Watch local news and the super bowl if I care that year.

[–] egrets 60 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The cost to move to America is quite steep, though, and there are significant drawbacks.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Dunno where you are but most countries I've visited in Europe have hundreds of free TV channels broadcast over the air. Minimal ads because a lot of the channels are tax subsidised, or like the UK, a loicense innit

Where I am, you get a TV streaming box from your ISP for a few euros, and streaming is free for about 200 channels; ad breaks are around one minute long every 30 minutes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Heck, here in the UK, we have a TV licence and the OG ad-free service, the BBC.

Yeah, the BBC has had its fair share of controversies over the years, but I’m still glad it’s there and still ad-free.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago

People who say the TV licence is a ripoff should be made to watch US cable TV. I nearly gouged my fucking eyes out with a rusty spoon.

The BBC produces the best quality TV programming on the planet

An awful lot of shite as well

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The ads on over the air programming are so so terrible. And even with a great antenna the many channels aren't exactly the highest quality content even if they didn't have ads.

YouTube has taken the place of over the air TV and for good reason.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It has taken the place in people's behaviour but it has not taken the place functionally. No doubt, you use technology to filter ads out of YouTube viewing, and one could do the same with OTA broadcasts.

[–] ch00f 1 points 9 hours ago

Also attempts to make the ads more invasive (louder in this case) are literally legally limited by the federal government.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I am aware. I am also aware that I haven't used cable tv over a decade and I do not regret ditching that garbage

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Whatever, all free broadcasts are on YouTube anyways. But on demand and adblock exists

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Does this include american football games?

[–] 11111one11111 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Not youtube but there are sites that have every game and their condensed versions but never live.

Edit: not including pirate options.

[–] ch00f 0 points 9 hours ago

Wait, what? Are you talking about people who upload content and try to slide by the copyright filters?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes.

https://fmhy.net/videopiracyguide#live-tv-sports

Although I don't tune in to live sports, I just share resources to find free livestreams/media with others :P

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (8 children)

Ads, ads everywhere.

Besides there, there is also a 4k OTA standard, ATSC 3.0. Most TVs don't support it yet, but some do. Worth googling before you buy. You can also get something like an silcondust 4k standalone tuner and plug that into your home network instead. You then load its app to watch over the air TV in 4k.

If you do buy the silicondust tuner, you can go further and get a DVR going. Plenty of free projects that will help you setup and record TV like jellyfin, and many of them will auto-skip the ads too with an application called comskip.

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