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The letter comes as polling within the Muslim American community shows a major departure from the Democratic Party over the Biden-Harris administration's unfettered support for Israel's war on Gaza, which they along with rights groups and legal experts view is a genocide against Palestinians.

The letter calls on Muslims to instead vote for any of the third-party candidates, including the Green Party's Jill Stein whose support has swelled among the Muslim American community in recent weeks.

"We want to be absolutely clear: don’t stay home and skip voting. This year, make a statement by voting third party for the presidential ticket," the letter said.

"Equally important, vote all the way down the ballot for candidates and policies that stand for truth and justice, ensuring your voice is heard at every level."

The letter, written and released in collaboration with the Abandon Harris campaign, was signed by more than three dozen religious leaders from all around the country, including Dawud Walid, Dr Shadee Elmasry, Imam Omar Suleiman, Dr Yasir Qadhi, and Imam Tom Facchine.

The imams who have signed the letter say the calls for Muslims to uncritically support Harris is fear-mongering.

"None of this is an endorsement of Donald Trump's vile, racist agenda, which includes advancing the apartheid and genocidal interests of a foreign state while falsely claiming to put America first," the letter said.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (13 children)

The Uncommitted Campaign, a movement that gained media attention for its call to withhold votes from President Biden during the primary elections over the war on Gaza, released a statement earlier this month saying that while it could not officially endorse Harris, voters should not cast their ballot for any other candidate but her.

How's that not an offical endorsement?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean I guess it leaves open the option of not voting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I guess it could be interpreted like that if someone want it very much, in such case why they didn't said it straight: do what you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's indirect support, but weaker than a straight up endorsement.

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[–] reddit_sux 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For them the choice is between do they endorse the president who kills and bombs Palestinians or they don't.

It is not between Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. Even they know none of the choices can or will lead to less violence in the middle east.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even they know none of the choices can or will lead to less violence in the middle east.

Ah, but one choice will definitely lead to more.

And by not voting, statistics show, you favour that more-genocide candidate.

Good job.

[–] reddit_sux 2 points 1 month ago

What more genocide than complete and indiscriminate annihilation of people. Using terrorist tactics to kill, maim your opponents. This will carry on or escalate irrespective of either candidate.

Only thing worse would be Israel using nukes, which is independent of the US President.

The only group of people it is going to make any difference to, are the Americans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Ah, but one choice will definitely lead to more.

You sure? Biden went against the DoD and approved the invasion of Lebanon, triggered the Iranian retaliation by lying about a ceasefire, and sent in US infantry and air support.

[–] VoterFrog 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's like the dumbest version of the trolley problem where the tracks are reversed. You could do nothing and people will die. Or you could pull the lever (convince a bunch of people not to vote for Harris) and a lot more people will die but, hey, at least you can say you did something.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

In terms of a bipoloar two party system, you're right, the other party will fuck them hard.

In terms of swaying their main party to listen to their voters or risk losing an election, they did the right thing. You have to make a stand at some point to hold your representatives accountable.

I used to think the best time to do this was once your party was in power, but through sheer osmosis of being on this instance, I'm now of the mind that once they're in power they will have no reason to listen to you, so you might as well strike when their victory is uncertain.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Let's run with your hypothetical. Let's follow it to the logical conclusion... The election is going to come down to swing states, and the only voters that could possibly affect the result are the Muslim voters mentioned above. Magically, nobody else exists or matters. Don't worry about how. If they vote third party, Trump wins, and it's all their fault... That's your scenario.

Except wait. Today isn't Election Day. Harris could do a 180 on her stance this evening. She has the ability to act now to change the future, to get those precious votes, the only votes that matter. But for some reason, she really doesn't do it, she doesn't care... And that's the problem your hypothetical has.

In reality, her campaign staff made their own choices, and they still have the power to adjust course if they feel like it. Or not. Whatever they like. But somehow you think it's the Muslim voters who are in control here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

and a lot more people will die

Biden is sending in US troops and air support, approved the invasion of Lebanon despite the DoD and Pentagon disapproving, and triggered the Iranian retaliation by lying about a ceasefire. Both the DNC and GOP are genocidal monsters, trying to pretend Trump would somehow be a lot worse than Biden already has been is nonsensical. Both are evil.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

“None of this is an endorsement of Donald Trump’s vile, racist agenda," afraid it is, kids. deny your vote all you want but do not pretend your intentions are valid out in the real world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Single issue voters and third party voters have always existed, and always will. If your political strategy is to blame them when you lose, you deserve to lose. Make a halfway decent campaign strategy. Or don't.

Kamala knew how to get their votes, and she decided to support the continued violence instead. Maybe she had good reasons, maybe not, but it was a clear calculation and choice. Why would you insult her intelligence? Why would you undercut her campaign so close to election day? How dare you endorse Trump!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Calling the majority of Muslim-American voters and Palestinians "kids" is wildly racist and condescending.

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[–] donescobar 4 points 1 month ago

In the great words of Terrence Howard, an action times an action equals a reaction.

https://youtu.be/-8Rpi47yFZc?si=7HviBC1TRt3-sm5J

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I guess maybe America can’t mess up the Middle East any worse if it’s busy fighting a civil war.

[–] Oisteink 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Great win! Taking votes away from kamala surely teaches Donald a lesson

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually this is a nazi talking point and you should feel bad

[–] SmilingSolaris 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd love to see an explanation for that one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Arab americans are sick of having their homelands bombed by democrats. The Obama administration for example dropped an average of 60 bombs per day on the middle east and north africa during his presidency.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

President Donald Trump and the republican party who are currently running the government are going to learn that their poor foreign policy has electoral consequences.

Everyone should vote for his opponent, Kamala Harris, who is in no shape or form part of the current government. This will show current President Donald Trump and his republican party that they have crossed a red line which nobody will vote for.

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