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Trump Aide Says Calling Harris ‘Childless’ Is Proving to Be a ‘Bad Strategy’ (www.thedailybeast.com)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 hours ago

I remember when I was a fundamentalist evangelical christian pro-life activist in my late preteens/early teens (picketing clinics was a favorite family activity), we used to have signs that said 'Adoption: the loving option'.

Turns out, maybe they don't care about adoption anymore. Just wombs.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

>demonizes childless cat ladies
>won't let you get IVF
>makes memes about protecting cats

what do they want from us

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago

They want you barefoot and pregnant, doing dishes and being your husband’s sex toy when he’s not fucking his secretary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

We're just not weird enough to understand.

[–] Zerlyna 66 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I’m permanent guardian to my niece. Asswipe says I’m not invested in the future because I didn’t birth her.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 38 minutes ago

I don't have children. I don't plan to have children. I don't think any of my partners did or do either. People can be invested in the future because they don't want future generations to suffer. If you need to have younger dependents for that, it mostly makes me think you have a rather narrow world view.

[–] IphtashuFitz 3 points 2 hours ago

Well in the eyes of the GOP you could just tear up the paperwork and walk away at any time, so clearly it doesn’t count.

[–] partial_accumen 78 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The GOP have been huffing "traditional family values" for so long they thought everyone did too. They make a jab at Harris for not fitting the traditional family values, which they thought would land with the public, but it fell flat because "traditional family values" includes the subjugation of women, abuse of children, and a big helping of toxic masculinity. Naturally those ideas are rejected by the majority of Americans today.

The GOP got high on their on supply.

[–] RunningInRVA 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Can Trump’s aides run in his place? They seem way smarter.

[+] [email protected] -63 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Eh. I'm voting for Trump but certain people around him (like Laura Loomer) might literally have me voting for Kamala if they were to replace him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Look, folks, a temporarily embarrassed billionaire. They're the only people that benefit economically from Trump's policies. Check your 2016 taxes paid divided by income and your 2023 taxes paid divided by income. The reason you paid more taxes in 2024 is Trump's tax reform. Did you get more for your tax dollars now? I don't feel like I did.

[–] Captain_Buddha 22 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming you're not trolling... Seriously, why?

[+] [email protected] -38 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

Mostly the economy (specifically tax cuts and support for domestic oil and gas production), border security, national security and foreign affairs.

[–] meco03211 2 points 1 hour ago

What about the economy did he improve? Do you have the numbers to support that or is it more of a "feeling"?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Because you want him to screw all those up again? I don't get it.

Every single item on the list has improved under Biden, and literally were made worse under Trump.

I really can't follow the "logic" of your reply.

[–] meco03211 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Didn't trump have IRS withholding changed to lower the amount going to taxes each paycheck? So the idiots saw an immediate "increase" in their paychecks thinking they got a tax break?

[–] DrPop 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes and I dealt with those who saw their paychecks had$0 federal tax withheld. They did not prepare the IRS for this. We basically had to tell them there were changes to the w4 and to review it with their employer.

[–] Blue_Morpho 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

domestic oil and gas production

But oil and gas production is higher today than under Trump?

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61545

border security

But border arrests are 3x higher today than under Trump? https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics

Despite the rhetoric, we produced more oil and have had stronger borders over the past 4 years of Biden than the 4 years under Trump.

[+] [email protected] -19 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's fine that oil and gas production are higher now, I'm sure Trump will take that number even higher.

What I'd like to see when it comes to illegal immigration isn't exactly more arrests, but a stronger border that's harder to get through in the first place. And perhaps some deportations as well, although I tepidly prefer some qualified form of amnesty to deporting every single illegal immigrant.

[–] ByteJunk 4 points 1 hour ago

I saw an interesting stat today that relates to this.

I'm in the EU, and this year for the first time my country spent more money buying Chinese solar panels than it did buying gas from the US, which has traditionally been a big national expense.

Putting it another way: the Chinese are selling us fishing poles, while Trump wants to keep selling us fish. Sure, we'll keep buying fish for a while yet, but not for much longer.

I'm not even considering the climate and all that. It's just a better economic investment.

But sure, you pump up those barrel numbers as high as you can, up until it comes crashing straight into the ground.

As for immigration, sure whatever. Kick out all the immigrants, but be honest and let me know how many people do you personally know that want to spend their life working the fields all day, or spend days at a time out at sea on a trawler, or mowing lawns for pennies on the dollar.

Because as a dev, I really enjoy my air conditioning and nice comfy office, and probably make more money than half a dozen of those pesky useless freeloaders combined, so you won't be seeing me doing those jobs anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago

So he butchered all those things in his 4 years unless you're already rich. Are you rich?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What specific policies of Trump's appeal to you in those areas? Particularly national security and foreign affairs?

[+] [email protected] -30 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

For national security, a lot of it is securing the southern border. It does have some ties to foreign affairs, part of that is Trump's (relative) strength as a negotiator with world powers. He doesn't get everything he wants all the time, but he is feared to a degree by many leaders, which is important when some of those leaders are our enemies, and he understands how to use leverage in circumstances such as negotiating the release of American hostages from foreign soil. I will say that Trump isn't as good at negotiating as I would like, but at least he has a positive track record on that front, whereas Kamala Harris can't even negotiate the support of the Teamsters lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 26 minutes ago

I'm sorry, you think that Trump is feared by America's enemies? My friend, your enemies are the people he spent the most time cosying up to. He openly admires Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin for being autocratic dictators. He pals around with Saudi princes. On the other hand he almost irreparably damaged US relations with its closest allies. The world is only "scared" of Trump in the sense that they're scared of how damage his constant blundering will cause on the world stage.

Also, how is the southern border in any way relevant to national security? Mexico is your ally. Do you think that the cartels are preparing to invade Texas?

[–] slickgoat 18 points 2 hours ago

Feared by world leaders? They think Trump's a joke. He's literally Putin's patsy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If Trump actually cared about securing the border, why did he call Republicans in congress to vote against the border bill that they wrote? Biden was willing to sign it into law until they killed their own bill.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I too Think that Someone who Steals US TOP SECRET SECURITY DOCUMENTS IN HIS BATHROOM and Bends Over Backwards to anyone who says His Hair Looks GOOD, EVEN if that Person is Actively an Enemy of the United States, is the PERFECT Person to Lead our National Security!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

🤣

[–] InverseParallax 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Eh. I’m voting for Trump

I mean.... really?

It's not a question of political views, I was a midwestern conservative growing up, back before the dixiecrats hijacked the party and drove it into a ditch,

Vote libertarian until they finally kick the trash out, sending a message matters more than anything else.

[–] RunningInRVA 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Enjoy the downvotes.

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