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[–] Aceticon 2 points 8 hours ago

Don't forget to check the tin foil hats too!

[–] stupidcasey 9 points 15 hours ago

I don’t know why you think this will be an isolated event, a civilian you probably don’t have anything to worry about in the same way you don’t need to worry about getting poisoned or shot but this is now an attack method governments will take advantage of.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

They going to tear open the battery while they are at it? It’s not like there’s going to be a small lump labeled “RDX” with wires sticking out of it.

While they’re at it, why not incorporate the explosive into the body of the device? Has no one else seen Up in Smoke?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I suspect that's not far off from what Israel did, from my understanding they modified a device's at a production level, it sounds like they essentially redesigned the pager.

It will be interesting to see how they did it with the radios.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like a broken record reminding people that the TAO (Tailored Access Operations, now Computer Network Operations), part of the NSA, has been doing this for 20 years. Except they implant spyware instead of explosives. Probably.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

This predates the NSA, but they blew up a Russian pipeline with modified software.

[–] psmgx 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

They blew up a Soviet pipeline by leaking bad pipeline turbine designs via the Line X program. Nothing to do with the NSA hacking supply chains and more due to double agents leaking deliberately bad designs, and the Soviets failing to stress test them.

The NSA was created in the 50s and was around at this point; this was the CIAs show.

See also: the Farewell Dossier

[–] InverseParallax 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It doesn't predate the nsa, but the Cia contracted out the work through a Canadian firm iirc.

The nsa doesn't have the mandate for clandestine activities, only reconnaissance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You could get a new battery from a known good source (or light a couple on fire to make sure they're not explosive). It should be relatively easy to check the rest of the components for anything near a dangerous amount of explosive, and the body can be replaced with a custom one and/or subjected to the fire test.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Even a fire test may not produce accurate results (see C4). Better to not have distinct supply lines from the civilian population you're already hiding in.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago

I believe it's ICOM, not Baofeng.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-820735

What are the ICOM IC-V82 radios exploding in Lebanon?

On that note, one review on eham.net from twelve years back for this radio is amusing:

https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product?id=5046

Watch out for fake v82's! Only buy from authorized retailers or someone who did.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

would RDX increase or decrease baofeng interference? only one way to find out

[–] linearchaos 18 points 19 hours ago

Wait, what frequency sets off the....

BOOM

BAOFENG transmits on all frequencies, it's just louder on the ones they intend

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine being at war with Israel will induce paranoia from here out.

[–] verity_kindle 6 points 19 hours ago

I'm ok with that. I am drinking cheap, dry champagne right now in real life.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

protip: if you're not connected to a terrorist group targeting israel, you've got nothing to worry about

[–] Eylrid 16 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It's interesting who we call terrorists and who we don't. If an Arab nation or organization had done this it would have been called a terrorist attack. Israel does it and people defend it.

Terrorist is a meaningless scare word for "people we don't like".

[–] verity_kindle 10 points 16 hours ago

Ok, but this is NCD. Would you like a flute of Trader Joe's finest champagne? It's not very good, but it's free.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

'Terrorist' is a shorthand for 'Terrorist we don't like'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

We read on the news 'Hezbollah pagers' and assume that this was a targeted attack. But are we sure? What does it even mean? Who and how got those devices?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago

Or if you are a child who happens to be near one maybe you just die anyway