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[-] [email protected] 195 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is horrible and obnoxious tree trimming. Bad for the trees, bad for urban tree canopy, bad for urban heat management, bad for carbon sequestration, and done as an insult to labor.

[-] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The city should fine the fuck out of NBCUniversal for the full cost of replacing those trees. Those are not healthy trees.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

They did issue a fine of a whopping $250.

[-] azdood85 36 points 10 months ago

Its amazing how fines for businesses are still at 1950s levels but individual (none rich folk) fines have kept up with inflation since the 80s.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

It's almost like corporations and the wealthy have outsized control over politics.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Fines are literally only for poor people. They've done studies on it. Shit is crazy.

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[-] Kelly 14 points 10 months ago

To be honest I thought tree law was going to be more punitive

[-] p1mrx 11 points 10 months ago

I asked our AI overlords for an appropriate punishment:

The company executives have to spend the weekend acting as city gardeners, complete with typical gardening attire, tending to the local parks and trees - ensuring the community that they're committed to their "root-level" duties.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Jesus. That doesn't even cover one tree, not to mention labor. Even if they were fined per tree.

[-] teamevil 22 points 11 months ago

Where as I don't disagree with the timing being retaliatory, my parents have similar trees and my father had me do that just before he passed away. I was convinced I was killing the trees and turns out their canopy is larger than ever now, so it might not be terrible for trees, but still timing is bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago

I'm not an arborist and we don't have those type of tree where I live, but I have worked in landscaping before. My understanding any substantial trimming like that I've done in the past should never be done in the hottest part of the year because the tree will have trouble retaining water.

[-] regular_human 23 points 11 months ago

That's the main thing. Pollard your trees when they're in winter dormancy, not mid summer while they're actually using leaves to respirate

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

This looks more like tipping than pollarding to me. If it’s supposed to be pollarding whoever’s doing it is shit at it. Tipping is harmful to trees, and based on the photos of the tree prior to it being cut it looks like it may have been tipped once in the year already (likely why they weren’t issued a permit by the city and cut it illegally).

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[-] southbayrideshare 180 points 11 months ago

The Washington Post talked to the studio and the city this week and established some important key points.

NBCUniversal acknowledged they trimmed the trees, but they claim they trim these trees annually and it just happened to coincide with the strike:

A spokesperson for NBCUniversal confirmed to The Post that the company had pruned the trees. Universal’s confirmation was first reported by Deadline.

“We understand that the safety tree trimming of the Ficus trees we did on Barham Blvd. has created unintended challenges for demonstrators,” the spokesperson said in a statement. “That was not our intention.”

NBCUniversal is working to offer picketers shade coverage, pop-up tents and water, according to the spokesperson. The company has maintained the trees for years and prunes them annually in partnership with arborists for safety ahead of the “high-wind season,” the spokesperson said.

The city confirmed the trees are supposed to be managed by the city, the studio did not have a permit to trim them for the city, and that no permits had been issued to trim those trees in the last three years:

L.A. City Controller Kenneth Mejia said in a tweet Tuesday evening that his office is investigating the trimmings. The pruned trees are managed by the city, though businesses can obtain permits to trim trees from the city’s Bureau of Street Services, Mejia said. He added that they should be trimmed every five years.

On Wednesday morning, Mejia said the city had not issued permits for the ficus trees to be trimmed and had not issued any tree trimming permits for the location over the last three years.

The NBCUniversal spokesperson declined to comment on the controller’s statement.

[-] brimnac 89 points 11 months ago

So… one of them is lying.

Gosh, I wonder which one it could be…

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[-] QualisArtifexPereo 19 points 10 months ago

They were fined... $250.

That'll show em! 😔

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[-] [email protected] 105 points 10 months ago

Yes clearly a normal trim. I also butcher my trees annually. Fucking corpo dicks. /s

The sad thing is how many Americans are brainwashed into immediately siding with corporations and demonizing the workers in any labor dispute. Fucking gross.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

You know, I saw the story about the actors strike the day after it started on the NBC national news. It was about two minutes of the resporter telling the audience which shows they were going to be missing out on, like the next season of The Handmaid's Tale. It was so fucking blatantly one sided, to the point of just lying by omission. I'm not even sure they mentioned the AI issue. Of course no rational person should trust a TV network to give them unbiased, rational reporting about a fucking actors strike, but that's exactly where the average person is going to learn about it. And that's all that will come to mind - "oh no, my shows might take longer to come out."

[-] solstice 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I didn't really care about it at first. My thought was, hollywood's writing has been such complete utter dogshit lately, I literally can't remember the last time I walked out of a movie blown away by something new. (Dune was exceptional, Maverick was good, but those are books and sequels so not OC. Can't think of much else...)

Then I learned about fan baiting and how hollywood is actually purposefully trashing beloved franchises just to piss off fans, save money on writing, and essentially prep us for their transition to full AI writing and soon acting. For the last decade I've been mistaking their dogshit for out of touch but well intentioned corporate bufoonery. Now I realize it's just part of their large scale evil plan to stay profitable in a world where hollywood and big budget productions are becoming obsolete and irrelevant.

So I'm on the writers side, but good luck to them, I don't think they're going to win this one.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Taking away a tree's photosynthesis organs in the middle of summer when they're supposed to be storing nutrients for winter is also really good for the tree I'm sure.

How much you want to bet they took those cuttings and threw them in the landfill?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

The sad thing is how many Americans are brainwashed into immediately siding with corporations and demonizing the workers

i.e., chronically clueless about who's actually dividing and conquering them.

[-] DulyNoted 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah. There was a guy I used to work with who would always complain if we heard workers were striking. "Why are they complaining about the conditions? If they didn't want to work there they shouldn't have taken the job."

One of the more braindead takes I've ever heard on the topic.

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[-] [email protected] 97 points 11 months ago

Imagine what they would be doing to the actual strikers if they could still get away with it.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

Well they used to hire union Buster's who where armed so I imagine something like that.

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[-] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago

Universal was hit with a whopping $250 fine

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[-] ThisGuyRye 38 points 10 months ago

Looks like it hasn't been pruned like that before going back to 2007.

3800 Barham Blvd

https://maps.app.goo.gl/UzWrPV1gcjbMtTCt8

[-] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Idk if there's any connection, but it is weird that the last writer's strike was in late 2007.

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[-] MossBear 33 points 10 months ago

I can live without any new Universal Studios movies.

[-] SoleInvictus 11 points 10 months ago

I have friend who will acquire their goods on the high seas. Yearrrrrgh!

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Could someone explain this to me? Why would this harm the strikers?

[-] TwanHE 50 points 10 months ago
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[-] Girru00 29 points 10 months ago

Wouldnt want people to have any protection from the sun when its hot out

[-] solstice 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's a good strategy and works indoors too. For example, I know a bunch of financial auditors who basically go into businesses and annoy the shit out of them for a few weeks making sure there's no fraud going on. They say it's extremely common for them to get stuck in uncomfortable spare offices, it'll be small and cramped, too hot or too cold, they work late into nights and weekends and the client will intentionally make sure ac isn't on late, things like that. Also works at home for getting rid of company that overstayed their welcome.

[-] cmoney 17 points 10 months ago

Taking away the shade the tree leaves would've provided.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Go out and give the protestors some big ol' tent things.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Fucking assholes. Time to buy some E-Z Ups and line the sidewalk with them

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