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Remember Cutefish? Pretty sure it's dead (sourceforge.net)

submitted 3 months ago by daggermoon to c/[email protected]

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The last update was over a year ago it seems. I remember everyone talking about the desktop environment like it was the next big thing. May she rest in peace.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Is it me or is source forge just the mark of dead things.

I always avoid that place. It feels like where you go to get broken stuff.

They're gonna take me out back and shoot me for saying it but Launchpad too. Like I'm glad it works for you but it feels like when Debian had a website in 2015 that looked like 1997. How are we going to attract new talent when the rift between the average developers and the old guard widens over time. All the git VCS modernization supercharged development. Like bugzilla was "fine", but " fine" was the problem in a world of better when you couldn't even upload a > 250kb jpeg and other legacy hold us back stuff.

[–] RegalPotoo 58 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If a project is hosted on sourceforge then its a pretty good sign that the developer hasn't progressed their craft since about 2005, which is a pretty big red flag for anything

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Not a linux project, but OpenCamera for android is probably the only exception I know of. It's still getting updated and does best what it's supposed to do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

True, but the UI reflects that they still use source forge lol. Still the best open source camera.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Good thing is that sourceforge have anonymous commenting and tickets. Once I had an issue with open camera I didn't need any account to create a ticket or comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

There are other exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Exactly, they could be hosting their releases on whichever site they use for remote git, but they don’t know how to use git

[–] hjjanger 1 points 3 months ago

If your a chess fan, Scid vs PC is regularly updated and it's hosted on sourceforge. However I don't go there unless it's for that or other related projects.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think most projects left Sourceforge after they started putting adware into they're downloads.

[–] leo85811nardo 3 points 3 months ago

Over the beginning few years into software engineering and FOSS world, I legit thought Sourceforge is a sketchy software download website

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

it feels like when Debian had a website in 2015 that looked like 1997

As a Debian user... Its the same in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Amen. I though I somehow missed a new site design.. I kinda like it the way it is now..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Oh I'm not complaining. Its quick and simple to navigate. I don't need flash, I need function.

I wouldn't mind updates with that aspect kept in mind, but I'm not going to complain about it either. I think more websites could use debian.org as an example.

[–] linearchaos 2 points 3 months ago

I don't care what the website looks like as long as the product still works as amazingly as it does now.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agree - after they started bundling adware in downloads (2013ish?), all the decent projects seemed to move to github en masse.

Those projects that stayed were mostly already stagnant, or the maintainers didn't use git and didn't want to learn, or had some other reason that allowed them to accept advertising on their work.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

It was bought out and cleaned up a few years ago. It's legit again now, though I don't think it'll ever really recover from that fiasco.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I agree about Sourceforge but there isn’t really anything better than Bugzilla still, at least not that I’ve seen anyone use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

They have a GitHub. The SourceForge links to their GitHub pages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

rift between the average developers and the old guard widens over time.

You write "new kids value appearance over function and lack the mentors to show them why that's bad" funny. And, you should use the other punctuation for a question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I agree, alot of the young guard prefers bling over whatever actually works great. Having said that, giving older software a bit more bling is a good idea because said young guard is the future and you always want to lure people with the bling and keep them with the great functionality. Right now they see bling and if it's shit, oh well, that's just how it works

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

And that's especially true for Linux and other big projects.

I'm not a kernel or C developer by any stretch, but a few years ago fixed a small bug that caused my knockoff PS2 controllers to act super weird. Nothing serious, something like one constant and maybe 5 lines of code. Would have gladly pushed that upstream, but fuck me sideways is that a complicated process. Patches via email??? And the argument is always "but it works for us", yeah burning witches and slavery also work for some people, doesn't mean it's something to continue doing.

If there isn't a serious revamp, Linux will die a slow death or become just a corporate graveyard product like Cobol.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Give it three days, it'll rise again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Given its icon, I wouldn't be surprised if it's religious-themed :P

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Temple OS : Excuse me?

[–] Lantern 6 points 3 months ago

Everyone was talking about it back in 2022, but it hasn’t really had any progress since then. I had attempted to use it, but it was rather unpolished.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I can't say that is a surprise honestly

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Cutefish? I'm all about the Dopefish.

Swim swim hungry

[–] Wispy2891 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I watched the GitHub and it looks like it's deepin os with a custom settings app and a MacOS style dock.

At that point just install deepin os and hope they don't lie about user privacy (being owned by a Chinese for-profit doesn't help)

[–] daggermoon 1 points 3 months ago

Deepin looks gross lol. What I mean is it only looks good with its own apps. KDE apps look horrible on it and GNOME apps don't look great either. I don't know how anyone uses Deepin. I get taste is subjective but it feels half finished.