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You also experienced this ? Since my account is blocking Lemmy.ml, i do not get notified for replies of users from there (self.asklemmy)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by A_A to c/asklemmy

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... still i can see their replies.

important clarification

since replies here are confusing things up : i don't want to block users ... only communities from that instance (...and only because their moderation is biased).

original title

Do you have this ? Since my account is blocking Lemmy.ml, i do not get notified for replies of users from there

... maybe that original title was confusing ?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you can use Lemmy's user-level Instance blocks for what you want. The assumption is that if you're blocking an Instance, you don't want to see either the communities or the people. There's a bit of compromise happening that appeases the majority: you can't block the replies from physically existing, but you can at least prevent being notified of them.

It might be better not to use the Instance block, and individually block all ml's communities. This would be ball-ache to do by hand, but is scriptable via the API (you'd just have to rerun your script occasionally to catch newly-created communities)

[–] A_A 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Blocking all these communities would be difficult for the user but also it would create more load on the server which i don't want to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Hmmm. Well short of running your own server and hacking away at whatever platform it's running, I think you're looking at a Feature Request for Lemmy devs (for an option to be included with blocking Instances, to hide/show reply notifications from that instance's users)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Join lemmy.cafe.

It is defederated from lemmy.ml, that means posts and comments from lemmy.ml users are completely invisible to me as a lemmy.cafe user.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

fellow .ml user here; I can see your post.

Would reccomend joining an instance that doesnt federate with ml if it bothers you that much.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If he blocked you or your instance you'd still see them, but they don't see you. Blocks only go one way.

But I have the entire .ML instance blocked and I also still see users from that instance when they post to other instances (as is the case here). It only seems to block the communities on that instance. You'd think it would block everything from the instance, including the users.

[–] A_A 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

... and I also still see users from that instance ...

Great ! Now, for these users, did you notice that you are not notified when they answer to your post or comments ? (this is really what I was trying to ask in the title of this post ... I guess my question was not easy to read, no one until now is answering)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can't be certain; sometimes I get reply notifications from comments that don't exist (has no user info or text beyond "no record of this comment"). I don't know if they simply deleted it or if that's something I'm seeing because it's a blocked user or instance.

[–] A_A 1 points 4 months ago

Strange ... i never had such notifications ...

[–] A_A 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Users from that instance are for me like any other users … but their communities have moderation which is biased. So, by blocking their instance, i am only blocking their communities and not their users.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you care to elaborate a bit more on what you don't like about .ml moderation? I joined Lemmy before the reddit exodus. At the time I joined, .ml was the largest instance.

[–] A_A 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You are here (there) since 2 years and maybe you noticed that if we post something in favor of Ukraine or criticizing China and russia on ".ML" then we are in trouble (or create large friction with moderators and administrators) ?

N.B. : ML stands for Marxist Leninist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I left .ml for exactly this reason

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I mostly look at memes, so I never noticed that. And .ml stands for Mali, the country. I didn't know it was a dual meaning acronym.

[–] A_A 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

.ml was attributed to Mali by internet authority but Lemmy administrators (& developers) at the time choose that one (.ml) because they are Marxist Leninist ... and because those domains were not expensive.
Sure you know about this 2nd most important instance at the time that was lemmygrad(dot)ml ... ? (it's a play on words from Leningrad)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I'm aware of Lemmygrad, yes. FOSS is the reason why I joined Lemmy, and I was at least mildly aware of the developers' philosophy. I wasn't aware they were moderating all dissent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't subscribe to lemmy.ml communities if you don't like them? You don't have to block them to not see them, just don't subscribe to them.

[–] A_A -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Half of the time i select "All" instead of "Subscribed" or "Local" for my feed. (... and i have eight blocked instances)

[–] Lost_My_Mind 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well now you have to tell us which 8, and why!

[–] A_A 2 points 4 months ago

But i might just be typical and boring on this aspect ... and maybe it is so that most users have also many instances blocked, each one according to their tastes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

In a federated system, only the instance admin can block others from commenting.

You can ignore, but you can’t prevent them from replying to your public posts.

[–] A_A 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i like the fact that they can reply to me but i would like to be notified like for any other replies from other instances.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you want to hear from them, why would you block them?

[–] A_A 3 points 4 months ago

Users from that instance are for me like any other users ... but their communities have moderation which is biased. So, by blocking their instance, i am only blocking their communities and not their users.

[–] givesomefucks -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bruh you have no idea what OP is talking about in either of your replies...

They're talking about blocking an instance, which isn't blocking every user, it's blocking every community.

If you do that you still see accounts and their comments, but do t get notified by replies.

I mean, OP already said that. And you didnt understand the first time, so I'm not sure doing it again will help.

But that's why you're confused.

[–] A_A 1 points 4 months ago

Exactly, yes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You’re mixing up user blocks of an instance with defederation.

[–] givesomefucks 1 points 4 months ago

....

Fuck man, are you a really good troll or honestly not able to understand?

Because to everyone else the result is the same, and speaking of blocks....

[–] A_A 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

@givesomefucks here said it right

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Blocks aren't supposed to keep anything from existing. They're supposed to keep you from seeing it.