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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So we pay cops to kills us, if they’re found guilty, we also pay but if someone murders you then you’re SOL? USA baby

[–] Siethron 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean if someone murders you ANYWHERE you're SOL. Your family might get justice somewhere else though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

stab stab Jokes... on you... we have a robust law enforcement and judicial system... stab stab stab

[–] TenderfootGungi 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] givesomefucks 37 points 11 months ago

For major cities in the Midwest?

Pretty middle of the road.

The reason people say "most murders are by a spouse/partner" is because those are the easiest to solve, and cops are pretty shit at solving crimes.

It's waaaaay more accurate to say "most murders who are caught killed a spouse/partner"

[–] gAlienLifeform 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hard to say since news organizations had to sue this department to get these numbers and pretty much every department is always trying to sweep dirt under the rug like that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

According to the FBI, around 51% of murders in 2021 were solved. So this is just a bit lower than the federal numbers. The number doesn’t shock me, I think solving a murder is very hard and technology can only offer so much more info. Proving murder beyond a doubt is also very difficult, like OJ. We all know he killed his ex wife and her boyfriend, but prosecutors couldn’t prove he did it within the court context. An “unsolved” murder that has a solution.

[–] JJROKCZ 5 points 11 months ago

That’s 51% in one year though, in STL if they only did 60% over the 6 year span of 2017 to 2023 then they haven’t hit 51% in any given year, unless they just completely stopped post covid.

I live in stl and can say it feels like they did completely stop post covid but I don’t know for sure, I know they had a “silent protest” for a while while Kim Gardner was in office but that’s over now that she’s resigned as circuit attorney and someone competent took over.

[–] Shialac 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How many of those homicides were commited by police officers?

[–] mycroft 9 points 11 months ago

Well theoretically 100% of the unsolved could be, they haven't solved them after all.

[–] MasterObee -3 points 11 months ago

If you had to guess right now, how many would you guess? since 2017 - so we'll say over a 5 year span, what's the total?

[–] CADmonkey 11 points 11 months ago

If someone isn't standing there with a literal smoking gun over the body they probably have no clue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

So if you want a better than a coin flip chance at getting away with murder, apparently you should look into St Louis.

[–] Coreidan 8 points 11 months ago

Super shocked. Cops are so good at their jobs how could this happen? /s