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[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 months ago (1 children)

However, those who synced their desktop apps with the mobile versions have discovered that some of their tokens did not correctly synchronize, making their associate accounts inaccessible.

Lol

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, laughing at the customers (who were making a good decision to make sure they had 2FA enabled) is kind of a dick move.

But from the perspective of the company fucking up that bad it's funny.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I use their phone app. I sure have a weekend chore to get the fuck off that app.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I told everyone at my company about it 2 months ago. I moved everything to bit warden.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I’ve been moving over to Okta’s app. Wondering if I should pick something else though. All of my credentials are in 1Password, but I don’t want my 2FA in the same place.

[–] subtext 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well to give you another option, Bitwarden made a standalone authenticator app that is presumably secured with the same care as the regular Bitwarden password manager app.

https://bitwarden.com/products/authenticator/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Nice, thanks! This is what I was looking for. Something that handled solely 2FA.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Aegis on Android is also very nice (and open source).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, I wouldn't know where to move to.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hope you all freed your 2fa secrets from this un-service.

[–] fne8w2ah 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I did when the news first broke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I did that when they leaked my phone number to hackers, as happened to other millions of users. Using authy is a security threat

[–] Armand1 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This prompted me to move away from Authy, and looking it up, it doesn't allow you to export your TOTP tokens. There were some workarounds but then have been plugged, I tried.

Mostly switched over to Bitwarden's equivalent. I've been using their password manager for many many years now and am very happy with it. They have an export feature in a few different formats.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I only ever used Authy as a single-item TOTP vault for BitWarden, but I moved off of it long before they ever mentioned the Windows app shutdown due to dissatisfaction with the UI. I just didn’t like their “card-like” interface, and they never offered a super-compact list-like interface. The card interface just wasted too much screen real estate, even on a desktop, and it just got immeasurably worse under mobile.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The work around did work however you needed to download an older archived version that was unpatched.

[–] Armand1 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I did that, but then it refused to let me log in, telling me the version was not secure or something.

Older versions appear to refuse to talk with their servers, at least that was the case for me.

[–] Boozilla 21 points 3 months ago (10 children)

What are some good multi-platform alternatives/ replacements?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I switched to Aegis when google authenticator didn't allow exports. It's simple and it works.

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[–] fart_pickle 30 points 3 months ago

Bitwarden or Proton Pass.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Keepass. Standalone FOSS apps for desktop/phone. Has OTP support.

Password/tokens are stored in a small encrypted db file you can copy/paste anywhere you need it. Has hundreds of plugins to do various things.

Use something like syncthing/nextcloud/onedrive to keep the file in sync across devices.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Duo, Aegis, Bitwarden, Proton.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I use KeePassXC and a Yubikey 5. You can store a certain number of 2fa on the key but i also back up the secret key and recovery codes on KeePassXC which is backed up on my Nextcloud. When using the Yubikey there is an app on desktop and mobile that reads they key but doesn't store the codes. Open the app, plug in the key, the TOTP appears, take the key out and the TOTP is gone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I like using bitwarden, the selfhosted vaultwarden server stores it with passwords and makes codes available in the app / browser extension. I also keep them backed up on a nas and synced off-site just in case.

[–] haulyard 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Along with others already mentioned, 1Password can support 2fa.

[–] batcheck 2 points 3 months ago

1Password has impressed me. I’ve used KeePassXC, LastPass, Bitwarden (but not extensively and one of the early versions), and even CyberArk (🤮).

1Password is closed source but it’s one of those pieces of software that just works the way you expect it to. Hard to confirm a lot of their security claims. Just rolling with “Have not heard a lot about 1Password breaches” mentality.

We got lucky at work and used it to replace an unmanageable long list of KeePass database files that were sprawling everywhere. With that everyone who uses 1Password at work gets an associate private family account. Made managing my kids passwords and share some of our common family passwords way easier and I still get to lock them out of my passwords I don’t want them using.

I believe modern Bitwarden for enterprise has a similar licensing sweetener with a private family account for each corporate account.

[–] kolorafa 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

AndOTP is great. Its free and had simple and easy encrypted backups. I love how its timer counts down, not up like some others and highlights the token in red so you know you need to hustle or wait.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It seems I cannot install it because the app is too old for Android 14..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That's odd, I'm on Android 14 and have andOTP installed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I switched to Ente Auth some time ago when bad news about authy started getting out

[–] anas 1 points 3 months ago

Same here, have no problems so far.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of password managers support 2fa now. I use Enpass because I got a lifetime license a long time ago (it's also available to people with Google Play pass), but I know some other popular options have it too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The whole point of 2FA is to keep the second factor separate from the first. If you store both in the same password manager app that defeats the entire point of 2FA.

[–] hikaru755 20 points 3 months ago

It still protects you from your passwords being compromised in any way except through a compromise of the password manager itself. Yes, it's worse than keeping them separate, but it's also still much better than not having 2fa at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I only switched to keepass due to the fact that nothing seems to support a desktop application like authy did. Not everyone keeps a phone on them 24/7. If they don't want that risk they would allow desktop apps. least in my opinion

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[–] sheogorath 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well that's already my Monday morning gone. I use Authy desktop for all of my work 2FA tokens.

[–] bfg9k 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

KeePass has native TOTP support now

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Welp, time to finally migrate one at a time to Proton.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That would be repeating the same mistake. You don't change one company for the other, you choose an app that is not dependent on an account, like KeepassXC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I moved from keepassxc to bitwarden then to proton pass when it was released. I'm not going back. I keep my recovery codes separate to prevent a complete lockout. But thanks for the suggestions.

[–] gedaliyah 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I used Authy a couple years ago, do I need to be worried?

[–] PlutoniumAcid 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Only if you use it currently. Otherwise no worries.

[–] gedaliyah 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks. I couldn't understand if there was a data breach that led to this or if it was just current users.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just spent a week manually moving everything off Authy. Total pain, but there are lots of better solutions out there now.

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