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The Democratic Party began the formal vote to nominate Vice President Kamala Harris for president on Thursday, kicking off a virtual roll call that will cement her status as the party's standard-bearer heading into November. 

The Democratic National Committee opened the vote to the delegates who will decide the party's nominee at 9 a.m. Delegates are emailed a personalized and watermarked form, and they can either send the form back or have the DNC call them to cast their vote. Ballots are being sent on a rolling basis, and the process is expected to take several days, with the voting window closing at 6 p.m. on Aug. 5.

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[–] FlyingSquid 39 points 3 months ago (7 children)

In before people complain about how they didn't get to vote for Harris.

[–] joeynotjoe 41 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'll always complain about my lack of a choice. I was pissed when they essentially anointed Biden during the primary cycle. I, like so many others, were rightly concerned about his age being a negative. But no...

I hope Kamala wins, I'm voting for her barring some cataclysmic fuck up, but we deserve to select our candidates.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Has there ever been a time where the incumbent wasn’t “anointed”?

[–] NOT_RICK 6 points 3 months ago

Yup, although in the modern era the incumbent has always won out against the challenger.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I hope Kamala wins, I'm voting for her barring some cataclysmic fuck up, but we deserve to select our candidates.

Democracy must be a managed system, otherwise it may not always work in favour of the rich.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As a European, I am appalled that I didn't get to vote for Harris.

Gotta share the love man.

[–] NOT_RICK 2 points 3 months ago

Remember kids, vote early and vote often

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I technically voted for her, I put anybody but Joe.

[–] rustydomino 0 points 3 months ago

There is some truth to this. I voted for Biden in good faith in the primaries. While I support Harris I did not vote for her. That is somewhat worrisome to me. That said, I am all in for Kamela. Fuck trump.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I do think that's an issue, tbf, I don't like the DNC playing king maker like this, but I recognize the unique situation they're in with this election.

That said, Biden belonging in a home not on a ballot isn't really a new issue, just one they put off until the very last minute, so I'm a bit bitter.

I dunno. Overall it feels like the importance of the voter is becoming less and less and its shifting towards the power of the party, but maybe that's the death of the innocence of youth and not a real change in how US elections work.

[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's always been about the power of the party. Can you name a presidential candidate the DNC didn't want once they got the nomination? I sure can't. Not in my 47 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The first election I got to participate in was the election of Barrack Obama. I've occasionally wondered if that affected my perception of politics and the following years have been lessons in what a more normal campaign looks like.

I don't wanna be misunderstood, I'm voting for Harris, Trump is an existential threat to the country.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For all of his flaws, McCain at least wanted the appearances of a fair election without going into the mud. He didn't tolerate people going for the racist angle. When some stupid lady in the crowd called Obama an Arab, he corrected her (in a sort of racially insensitive way, but...)

Same with Romney. Both of them wanted everyone to think that they were honest people whether they were or not. They cared about their reputations and their legacy.

Trump and his acolytes couldn't give less of a shit. It's all about short-term gains.

[–] njm1314 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah people need to stop giving McCain so much credit for that one video clip. He still picked a racist lady as his running mate. He's still sat on his butt as a senator in a state with Joe Arpaio for 20 years doing nothing.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 3 months ago

I don't disagree, hence me saying appearances rather than him actually being a stand-up guy. He was a piece of shit. But he was a piece of shit that actually didn't want the public to realize how awful he was. Trump couldn't care less and neither could the MAGA crowd.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Biden was the one who forced the democrats' hand here. Besides, Kamala was picked by hundreds of elected democrats from across the country, independent of party pressure. I honestly see it as a bit of parliamentarianism how they picked the next candidate now.

I would love to see primary reform and election reform that makes elections more fair and democratic, though. No reason why we have to decide the candidate in January at the whim of Iowa and New Hampshire, and no reason why only two candidates should have a viable chance at winning.

[–] verdantbanana -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

say that when your vote gets taken

some of us are not legally allowed to vote here in the US

way more than a complaint it is a loss of rights and an inability to be able voice any want of change

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, many people aren't legally allowed to vote. What's your point? I don't think we should be giving votes to non-citizens and infants.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe they're a felon, and I do think they deserve a vote.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 months ago

Maybe so. They've certainly had an opportunity to clarify. And still do.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

The illusion of choice. We get to choose nothing that matters. But you do get to choose from over 25 brands of fast foods to make you fat and sick. So many choices of insurance companies and doctors to mask symptoms. -- George Carlin basically.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Can they nominate Biden, again? Then have Biden 'become ill', again? Then have Kamala replace him, again? Then have Republicans who just bought $100s of anti-Biden merch complain, again?

It'll never not be funny!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They are trying to find any person named Brandon that needs encouragement. They bought too many "Let's Go Brandon" stickers, t-shirts, and hats.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I live in Canada and I have never and never will get to vote for the head of the executive or my head of state. And yet parliamentary systems are still considered democracies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Parliamentary systems are clearly fucking better - it's insane that president is a directly elected office in the US... That all said - it is a directly elected office so an election should happen.

I'll vote for Harris if she wins the roll call but I'm still disappointed there wasn't a mini-primary or at least an open convention.

[–] ralphio 2 points 3 months ago

Not sure about Canada specifically, maybe you could shed some light, but the US president has a lot more power than in a typical parlimentary system. This is typically why it's seen as essential that they are voted in directly. Would the US be better under a parlimentary system? Very valid debate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't you join a party and then you get to vote for the parties leader ? Don't see much of a difference between that and the primary system other then you have to officially join the party, which I'm not sure what that entails, as opposed to just registering to vote for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I would never bother. Party membership isn't common. About 1 to 2 percent of Canadians are registered since there are usually fees and other requirements. Justin Trudeau was elected party leader in 2013. Around. 104,000 party members voted.

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