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i foud out about this place a few days ago.. upon arriving i saw some misinformation spreading around. I called dit out and the response has been bullying name calling and being told to leave he site. is this what lemmy is?

Just wanna check before I go..

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're a new account who shows up and immediately starts arguing with people and insisting your interpretation is the only correct one. And you keep fighting and fighting and fighting long after you have anything new to add. Frankly you come across as the bully or at least you hold no moral high ground.

And I say this as someone unafraid to call out the zeitgeist when I think they are wrong. I take my downvotes when it happens and I engage honestly and respectfully with people I disagree with. I don't think I've ever had a comment deleted.

So it's not that you're being censored for your views, but because you're an asshole about them in places that don't tolerate that. And frankly I would rather an asshole on "my" team be censored than someone I can disagree respectfully with.

Food for thought. Come back when you're ready, if you want.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This whole thing reeks of β€œI came here, acted perfectly reasonably and logically, and everyone else, astoundingly, was illogical and mean to me. I’m so smugly innocent. I’m the victim. This makes no sense!”

Not one bit of self-reflection.

Is there an archetype or myth about this behavior? There must be. Some type of ironic β€œinnocent” contrarian? The little brother who provokes then runs to mommy to tattle?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's trying to gain sympathy by playing a victim. I'm sure there's a term for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

In the US I think the term you're looking for is "republican".

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Btw, if you look at the thread in question where you were called out for being wrong, all the comments name-calling and bullying you were removed. Moderation doesn't work instantly.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

before ya go, 'lemmy' is a software package used by many, many different server-instances with their own moderation levels. its not a 'site' so much as an ecosystem.

for example, youve posted this to lemmy.ml, one of the most heavy handed of the instances with regards to moderation. you should try out other instances like lemmy.world or even other products that get you the same data with less moderation (https://moist.catsweat.com)

youve just dipped your foot in the pool, dont leave because of a few mosquitos

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago

I went back and looked at the interaction. You said what you thought, other people said what they thought. That’s how the internet works. What, are you requesting that no one be allowed to disagree with you but you be allowed to speak your mind?

Speaking as someone who regularly gets irritated at the moderation / the hivemind, and occasionally argues with ACAB people because I am, more or less, pro police, I think your argument was wrong in this case. But that’s not even really the point. The bottom line is, people are allowed to disagree with you, even have a consensus against you. Why would they not?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

Lemmy is a federated space. You can join an instance where your views are more in-line with the other users, or you can stay and expect to get pushback.

That's the cool thing about Lemmy, it's not a single thing, it's a federation of many smaller spaces with different focuses, interests, vibes, etc.

But heads up, if you are defending the cop in Illinois that slaughtered that woman in her house, you're either completely clueless of American policing (which would make sense given that you're not from here) or you are a nasty cop-simp.

The cop got slapped with multiple charges. Even his own department thought it was fucked what he did, which is rare because pigs generally like to wallow together in the same shit.

[–] NineMileTower 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you were dead wrong and you aren’t as smart as you think you are? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

wrt the """misinformation""" you called out:

When a cop feels unsafe you should flop bonelessly to the ground so they can establish dominance, it's the only way to survive.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

You wanted to find an argument and you did. Now you want to cry that nobody agreed with you?

Get the fuck outta here.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Of course one single terrible interaction with one person of a group of people immediately means that the whole group is completely terrible.

So yes, you should leave while you can, try to get far far away from us homogeneous Lemmings ;)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, lemmy isn't just one site. If you had a bad experience on one instance, by all means leave and go to another one.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's a federation of servers with individual communities, so if a server/community is toxic stop participating in it and find or start an alternative. But most communities are tiny to small.

Edit: spelling

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This guy was literally trying to argue that police were justified in killing Sonya Massey. While the trial hasn't concluded, the evidence that the public has access to seems damning, and the offending officer has been FIRED. Do you realize how rare it is for a cop to get fired in the US?

It's a bad look among most people to defend police brutality. Try Truth Social instead, if you want to hang out with like-minded Americans.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Actually, lemmy's communities tends to be way more laid back than reddit or twitter. It's a small social network, even when counting the whole fediverse, and you always see known face on their alt accounts.

Just avoid trolling and go too far in the politics/news section

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You could choose not to engage in political debates with internet strangers. Or at least pick your battles and read the room. If several of your comments to a certain post are being strongly downvoted, that probably means that the genral populous of that community is not alligned with your political views or you have made a wrong conclusion or something. It could still mean that they are wrong and you are right, right and wrong a mostly just opinions anyways, but they are the majority, it is their community, so you are wrong.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago

There's some nice people here and reasoned discussion, but there is a dog pile mentality sometimes that's way worse than reddit ever was. And it was bad enough.