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Cynthia “Cyn” Carranza meticulously scavenged for a shady parking spot in the car she called home.

The overnight custodian at Disneyland has to sleep during the day - a difficulty for anyone, let alone when you're living in your car with two dogs. Ms Carranza says she makes $20.65 an hour (about £15.99) at the park but last summer, she couldn't afford rent in this Southern California city where the average apartment can run more than $2,000 (about £1,550) a month.

Ms Carranza, like others who work at the park, detailed to the BBC the financial hardships that come with working at what’s supposed to be the “Happiest Place on Earth”. About 10,000 union workers at Disneyland - the first of 12 parks created around the globe - are threatening to strike over the wages and what they say are retaliatory anti-union practices.

Hundreds of workers protested outside the park this week, with an array of signs and pins showing Mickey Mouse's gloved fist in defiance. 

“Mickey would want fair pay,” workers chanted outside Disneyland near the park's gates. 

They voted almost unanimously to authorise strike action on Friday, just days before union contract negotiations for workers are set to resume.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To show how bad $20/hour is (some people might think that is a lot due to local situation) someone paying $2000/month rent should have $6666/month gross income (using 30% rule). That equates to just under $40/hour at 40hours/week.

They are literally making half what they need to live.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Part of the problem is that the main anti-Disney political coalition doesn't want to address the local housing crisis; they want the region to go back to being a suburban sprawl.

You could easily build dense housing in the area that meets the balloon test, but Disney doesn't want to push it and the anti-coalition doesn't want it either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Disney could build affordable housing, too, as a perk.

[–] billiam0202 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

You'd need some serious regulation and enforcement. Company towns have historically been, uh... not great.

For example, imagine Disney rents apartments cheap to their employees but still underpays them. Now they're stuck working for Disney because they can't afford the rent offsite and can't save enough to quit.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

They do in Florida because, until a few years ago, they had complete control over the municipal government they operated in.

Disney has never had such control over the land around Disneyland.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The problem here is two-fold, I think. Disneyland can 100% afford to pay a lot more, for one, but also the rent in California is insanely inflated and needs to come down.

[–] RagingRobot 25 points 4 months ago

It's like these people are getting fucked at both ends

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Repeal Prop 13

[–] brygphilomena 83 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As a former Disney cast member, I wholly support this protest and I truly hope they strike.

In worked from 2008-2016 and started at $9.05/hr. We got 2% a year in raises, but in that time new hires would start at higher wages and they wouldn't match the employees who had been there to the new employees wage. Brand new employees would make more than those that had been there years.

When Anaheim had a ballet measure to raise the minimum wage they raised a ton of cast members wages to $3 less than the measure in hopes they could discourage people to vote for it. Fortunately, the measure passed. However, during this period they didn't retain the yearly raises, everyone was raised to the exact same wage. Those who had been there 30 years (no exaggeration) made exactly the same as new hires.

They've gotten hostile to their employees and the "perks" that employees for have been slowly stripped away. Each year getting slightly worse. Which is a problem because new hires don't know how much better it used to be so they don't know what to demand anymore.

I knew cast members that used to live 6 or 8 people to a two bedroom apartment. Most worked multiple jobs. Many of the entertainers who play as the characters ended up injured from wearing the Mickey and other character costumes. Multiple who had to have surgery to treat those injuries.

They have let standards fall, hard. The parks aren't what they used to be and literally the only thing keeping them together is the cast. They try so fucking hard to bring the magic to guests each and every day. They have been kneecapped by management though. IMO, of all "attractions" at the parks, the cast are the best. And the one that management should be investing in the most. They are the differentiator between Disney and Knott's Berry Farm, Universal Studios, and Six Flags. However leadership has constantly worked to move interactions from Cast Members to their half baked app.

Understand that all these cast members do it because they love bringing the magic to the guests. They endure shitty pay, shitty management, and injury for the guests. They care so much about making the public and tourists happy. They deserve so much more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I need to know more about "the Mickey" and the surgeries it caused.. was it too top heavy or something?

[–] brygphilomena 15 points 4 months ago

That's part of it, and the way it would sit on the shoulders. Lots of neck and spine issues. Then the hands would lead to repetitive stress injuries for some of their motions.

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[–] FlyingSquid 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ms Carranza says she makes $20.65 an hour

Makes sense. They couldn't afford to pay her more.

Disney Parks has just released its fourth quarter and full-year earnings, posting a record $32.5 billion in revenue for fiscal 2023, which ended September 30, 2023.

https://blogmickey.com/2023/11/disney-parks-posts-record-32-5-billion-revenue-in-2023/

Disney has a market cap or net worth of $174.83 billion as of July 19, 2024. Its market cap has increased by 5.72% in one year.

https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/dis/market-cap/

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (6 children)

You don't understand. If they paid her and the rest of the employees what would be a living wage, they would make only $32.4 billion. See? It can't be done.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I ran the numbers and it’s actually $31.46 billion. But you’re not far off.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We really need to eat the greedy. They're human fucking waste.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I saw something recently about composting them instead. I like that idea.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

I thought you pulled that number out your ass.

Then I did the math. I really am hungry for some rich right about now.

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[–] friend_of_satan 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That does not sound like the greatest place on earth to work.

[–] FlyingSquid 40 points 4 months ago

They call it The Happiest Place on Earth. Having been there as a non-employee, it was not even the happiest place in Southern California. In fact, there are a very large number of extremely overstimulated and entirely not happy children.

And they wish you a magical day as you are dropped off at your car where you get to have a very non-magical drive down a freeway in Anaheim.

And that's for the people who pay them.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (19 children)

2 dogs? Living in a car? How??? Why??????

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[–] bappity 19 points 4 months ago

big corporation under-pays workers, absolute shocker.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Don't worry front line workers. The C-Suite and the shareholders appreciate your sacrifice to allow them to make more money.

This is was workers need to strike and form unions.

[–] SirDerpy 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There are so many seasonal tourist businesses in the US. Many of these places are either very remote or extremely popular. These businesses need seasonal workers for 3-8 months. The vast majority require housing.

Many of these businesses provide. The smaller ones may have a room or cabin. Larger ones may have salvage travel trailers and shanty apartments. In remote places the only store nearby is the company store. If a worker's vehicle breaks they're effectively trapped.

Back to the 1800s, I guess.

[–] VanillaBean 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Disneyland is definitely not a seasonal tourist business. It is packed 365 days a year.

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[–] BuckenBerry 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

“Mickey would want fair pay,”

Are we sure about that?

One of his best friends is related to a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Seriously, I'm all for labor action (solidarity forever!), but that is one lame-ass chant lol.

Even while being bent over a barrel by them, Disney adults will be Disney adults I guess. Especially the ones who work there.

[–] boatsnhos931 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Last time I checked motels are definitely more expensive.. More than 8-9 days a month and you have enough money for $1000 a month in rent. Who in the fuck wants to work at Disney Land anyway

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