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[–] [email protected] 138 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Funny how CrowdStrike already sounds like some malware’s name.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It literally sounds like a DDoS!

[–] bruhduh 22 points 4 months ago

Botnet if you will

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not too surprising if the people making malware, and the people making the security software are basically the same people, just with slightly different business models.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Reminds me of the tyre store that spreads tacks on the road 100m away from their store in the oncoming lanes.

People get a flat, and oh what do you know! A tyre store! What a lucky coincidence.

[–] Eylrid 7 points 4 months ago

Classic protection racket. "Those are some nice files you've got there. It'd be a shame if anything happened to them..."

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[–] Carighan 130 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is, in a lot of ways, impressive. This is CrowdStrike going full "Hold my beer!" about people talking about what bad production deploy fuckups they made.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know you’ve done something special when you take down somebody else’s production system.

[–] bruhduh 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

*production systems around whole world

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm volunteering to hold their beer.

Everyone remember to sue the services not able to provide their respective service. Teach them to take better care of their IT landscape.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Typically auto-applying updates to your security software is considered a good IT practice.

Ideally you'd like, stagger the updates and cancel the rollout when things stopped coming back online, but who actually does it completely correctly?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Applying updates is considered good practice. Auto-applying is the best you can do with the money provided. My critique here is the amount of money provided.

Also, you cannot pull a Boeing and let people die just because you cannot 100% avoid accidents. There are steps in between these two states.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

you cannot pull a Boeing and let people die

You say that, but have you considered the savings?

[–] Iheartcheese 21 points 4 months ago

People are temporary. Money is forever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I have. They are not mine. The dead people could be.

Edit: I understand you were being sarcastic. This is a topic where I chose to ignore that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (12 children)

That's totally fair. :)

I work at a different company in the same security space as cloudstrike, and we spend a lot of time considering stuff like "if this goes sideways, we need to make sure the hospitals can still get patient information".

I'm a little more generous giving the downstream entities slack for trusting that their expensive upstream security vendor isn't shipping them something entirely fucking broken.
Like, I can't even imagine the procedureal fuck up that results in a bsod getting shipped like that. Even if you have auto updates enabled for our stuff, we're still slow rolling it and making sure we see things being normal before we make it available to more customers. That's after our testing and internal deployments.

I can't put too much blame on our customers for trusting us when we spend a huge amount of energy convincing them we can be trusted to literally protect all their infrastructure and data.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The real malware is the security software we made along the way.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We've known that since Norton and McAfee.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least McAfee's antics were entertaining

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[–] PriorityMotif 59 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can't get hacked if your machine isn't running.

[–] jaybone 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] psycho_driver 50 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The answer is obviously to require all users to change their passwords and make them stronger. 26 minimum characters; two capitals, two numbers, two special characters, cannot include '_', 'b' or the number '8', and most include Pi to the 6th place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Great! Now when I brute force the login, I can tell my program to not waste time trying '_', 'b' and '8' and add Pi to the 6th place in every password, along with 2 capitals, 2 numbers and 2 other special characters.

Furthermore, I don't need to check passwords with less than 26 characters.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I don’t understand. Do you mean there have to be 6 digits of Pi in there, or the sixth character must be π? I’m down either way.

[–] chiliedogg 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We won't tell you, and the rule gets re-rolled every 14 seconds. It may stay the same or it may change.

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[–] clearedtoland 24 points 4 months ago

What’s the saying about dying a hero or becoming the villain?

[–] Solemarc 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Maybe this is a case of hindsight being 20/20 but wouldn't they have caught this if they tried pushing the file to a test machine first?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not hindsight, it's common sense. It's gross negligence on CS's part 100%

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I saw one rumor where they uploaded a gibberish file for some reason. In another, there was a Windows update that shipped just before they uploaded their well-tested update. The first is easy to avoid with a checksum. The second...I'm not sure...maybe only allow the installation if the windows update versions match (checksum again) :D

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

A real Anakin arc right here.

[–] slazer2au 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Now threat actors know what EDR they are running and can craft malware to sneak past it. yay(!)

[–] marcos 7 points 4 months ago

Smart threat actors use the EDR for distribution. Seems to be working very well for whoever owned Solar Winds.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

SHOULD'VE USED OPENBSD LMAO

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes but the difference is one of them is also going to help you fix it.

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