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[–] Ledivin 70 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Who the hell has a 1-hour standup every day

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] draughtcyclist 26 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Same. I have yet to see anyone implement a true 15 minute standup.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My seven person team completes a stand-up in less than 15 minutes twice a week. Does it provide value? Probably not. Is it fast? Yes.

[–] draughtcyclist 40 points 4 months ago

I'd prefer quick no value to long no value.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Trust me, it provides value. For those of us with problems leaving everything to the last minute, having a little biweekly accountability and structure can really help prevent problems from getting too big.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

My old job legitimately did 5 minute standups. A person saying they were struggling with something would often get interrupted by someone else volunteering to help them after standup. It was incredible. I miss it so much.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I've been on multiple teams that do and it's so much better than the teams that don't.

Ideal standup (cameras off):

  • -2:00 - 0:00 mark: light chit chat if earlybirds want while waiting for standup to start

  • 15s-45s / per person: what did you work on yesterday, what are you working on today.

    • An extra 45s if you have a blocker. The resolution during the meeting is always either:
      • 'blocked, nothing I can do, moving onto X ticket',
      • 'someone tells me who to talk to to unblock'
      • 'me and a team member agree to meet after the standup to discuss how to unblock'
  • 0-2min total for offboard updates: who has a doctor's appointment, needs to take time off, happy anniversary, etc.

[–] SpaceNoodle 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I ran sub-ten-minute stand-ups for a while. If anyone ever went over one minute (LOOKING AT YOU, SOMNATH) I'd make a super annoying noise and cut them off.

[–] Ledivin 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have 3/week and they rarely go above 10 🤷‍♂️ if we actually stayed on topic, it'd probably be closer to 5, but I don't mind a little meandering

My last company was similar, but a bigger team and maybe 15-20min.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You gotta get out of there. They're wasting your time by over managing you

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'd love to. I used to be a very good software engineer, and I think deep down I might still be, but this place has taken all the joy I had in work. I'm not sure how I can get another job at this point where I can barely stomach the one I have.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I feel that. I spend multiple hours a day staring at my screen thinking "this whole thing is a scam, right?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure if it's possible for you, but I feel I've been in a similar predicament with a job I had. One day I just quit and took a few months off. IMO what was giving me that feeling was how weekends and evenings wasn't enough for me to fully decompress.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah that's terrible. I have an hour of stand-ups but that's 4 teams, I'm not an IC on any of them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I used to, wanted to Keep Myself Safe every day.

Corpos are awful to work for

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, 1 hour standup is an oxymoron

[–] SpaceNoodle 4 points 4 months ago

Our team had grown too big

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

Get in the Teams Meeting, Shinji.

[–] Wilzax 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Best schedule is: Clock in at 9:00 and plan/settle in until 10:00. Standup from 10:00 to 10:30 (and no later!). Solo code until 3:00 (lunch when you feel like it) and pair programming/testing from 3:15 to 5:00

I will be taking no questions

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Managerialism and it’s consequences …

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

We really gotta do something about the corporate managerial class.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Give me back my waterfall and 5 hour uninterrupted days.

[–] Seditious_Delicious 5 points 4 months ago

Why is your stand up 1hr, WTF? 10-15m (MAX)

[–] Thcdenton 3 points 4 months ago

How Disgusting

[–] Etterra 1 points 4 months ago

Honestly if he'd seen this before the end, maybe he would have done the smart thing and exterminated humanity.