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[–] testfactor 202 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Fun fact, whether this meme is pro-Israel or pro-Palestine is 100% decided by what date you consider the "start" of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia 116 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The history around Gaza and Israel is long and super complicated. The "they hit me first" gets really fucking dumb after like 10 rounds. That's why most people in the west don't support the war, they support leaving people alone. Either the gazans or the Israelites.

War is the ultimate singularity. It's a black hole that sucks up everyone and everything and there's literally no positive to it. So if you have a say in it, the only way to cause less tragedy is to stop it.

On that note, fuck the Hamas for attacking Israel at the festival, and fuck Israel for escalating this into another war.

[–] VelvetStorm 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, Isreal invented and funded hamas and gave them weapons. So fuck israel.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. It wasn't "invented" by Israel. And Israel didn't fund them, but it's true that Bibi let Qatar money reach Hamas when he could've blocked it.
The belief among some of the ones who supported that, was that better conditions of life in Gaza would prevent them from going to another war - An article about it from 2015

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

It's... not that long or complicated. Palestinians were there during the latter Ottoman Empire. The Israeli state is a project conceived after WW2 which, since its inception, has been illegally settling in land where Palestinian people already lived, and forcefully displacing them. You may not like what Hamas does, but like, what do you expect when you kick people out of the land they inhabit, a pat in the back or some resistance?

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

can i be pro-both, anti-genocide, and think that both of their ruling parties are fucked to shit

I think that much be a popular opinion but WTF is happening there

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I was thinking it was pro Palestine until I read the comments and realized it could be interpreted the other way as well...

Idk if the ambiguity was intentional, but it's good lol.

[–] macrocarpa 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] testfactor 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, so you're just gonna ignore how Sarah treated Hagar and lay it all on Ishmael, huh? :P

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[–] waz 76 points 2 weeks ago (36 children)

Maybe killing people is the wrong solution.

[–] hOrni 27 points 2 weeks ago

On one hand I totally agree, but on the other I would like to see billionaires on the guillotine.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And if I remember correctly Luke was wanting to join the Imperial Academy but his uncle kept him on the hydro farm another year.

Luke was just prior to that even a willing participant of the empire. He wanted to be a pilot, if only to get out of Tatooine.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

A small but cool detail, Luke even says "I hate the Empire too but there's nothing I can do about it right now."

Although I think the Expanded Universe ruins this detail by establishing that "the academy" Luke wanted to join was actually a rebel academy, even though that makes far less sense.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Sometimes writers make something good accidentally, then keep yapping until it contradicts itself, I suppose.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Man this post is really some kind of crazy Rorschach test

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Two neighbors were fighting over a financial dispute. They couldn’t reach an agreement, so they took their case to the local rabbi. The rabbi heard the first litigant’s case, nodded his head and said, “You’re right.”

The second litigant then stated his case. The rabbi heard him out, nodded again and said, “You’re also right.”

The rabbi’s attendant, who had been standing by this whole time, was justifiably confused. “But, rebbe,” he asked, “how can they both be right?”

The rav thought about this for a moment before responding, “You’re right, too!”

[–] Wilzax 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I want to interpret it as someone posting not only in support of Palestine, but in warning to Israel that their actions are that of the star wars Empire, and that the rebels did eventually succeed in a massive counterattack

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[–] Rookwood 50 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Yeah, cause it's fiction idiot. You know, the thing where we can have clear cut situations that are entirely black and white. Where one side is entirely evil and the entire one pure good. Reality fucking sucks

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

it's as if we are in an alternate timeline where Luke immediately went to emperor Palpatine and said your cock is the best I've ever seen! let me suck it, and let's do a commercial together about how the empire will save the galaxy, and that you should donate to his reelection.

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[–] hOrni 22 points 2 weeks ago

But Tatooine had no oil, so that was completely different.

[–] mlg 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know why people seem to be mad that a fictional story can accurately represent real life like we don't already have actual real life examples of the same thing.

Anyone remember Rambo thanking the Mujahideen fighters, which was retracted in future publications.

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