Idk what you're on about I love the buggy/hovercraft segments
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They're just kinda boring IMO, only driving down narrow corridors until you reach some roadblock where you repeatedly just get out -> do some shooting -> undo the roadblock -> make your way back to the vehicle -> drive down narrow corridor again -> repeat.
Halo at least feels mechanically different (the most common vehicle, the Warthog, is very physics-based so it feels much different than just walking, whereas the HL2 vehicles just kinda feel like moving fast) and usually used in conjunction with larger more open level design to make the vehicles feel more useful instead of strictly necessary, or in levels that give you heavy vehicles like tanks they are useful in taking out a large amount of enemy vehicles so it functions like a powerup and feels rewarding. Also you can get marines to ride with you and use the turret (or even have them drive you and you get to use the turret) so it shakes up the gameplay more.
I feel like for HL2, the vibe was more important than the gameplay for those segments. While you aren't technically doing anything too interesting, I still felt cool driving around.
That's true, HL2 does have some great vibes, but Water Hazard and The Coast levels just seem to go on for much longer than they should, particularly some parts of Water Hazard where you're literally in a trench and don't have much to look at so it's just driving down barren concrete tunnels while holding W.
There are some memorable moments, like everyone remembers the brick stack that falls on the player, and I particularly liked the more industrial areas of Water Hazard, and there are also some that use the driving mechanics more like the boss fight with the helicopter, but IMO the vehicle sections in HL2 are very much the "On a Rail" of HL2.
oh and also in Water Hazard while slowly making your way to Black Mesa East you get to watch the sun go down with each level transition and that looks/feels cool
I'm not a game dev but I always felt like that was kind of the point of water hazard? Okay yes the railroading could have been better but for me the point of the chapter is that it's just kind of barren, and you're travelling all this way and this is what it is like for Gordon. I feel like it adds to the atmosphere, and I am willing to bet when the writers wrote the story, it wasn't just "Gordon goes to the resistance base and fights a helicopter on the way", I think it makes sense to write at length about how alone he (and you) is with his thoughts, and it gives you time to think about lore. Up until now, you have been bombarded with lore and info and action, if you're a hl1 player your mind is racing to fill in the voids between the games (why is Breen in such a high position? What the fuck is happening?) And Water hazard is a long corridor designed to let you think about that more than it is a vehicle section. On the flip side, car levels in episode 2 and lost coast have much more of this "go there" feeling because they don't decompress much of anything.
I think it makes sense to write at length about how alone he (and you) is with his thoughts, and it gives you time to think about lore
That doesn't really make for a good game though, and personally I think the decompression levels are the ones like Black Mesa East where the story even kinda stops just so you can play with the new weapon in a zero-risk area for a couple minutes, after dumping some more lore for the player in Eli's lab.
Water Hazard though, that comes after Route Canal and the escape from City 17, both chapters that didn't have much direct storytelling, so by the time I get to the air boat, I'm already wanting for more than just combat encounters, but instead it's just a string of riding and stopping. I think I heard this analogy from Errant Signal, but it's like a book with the pages stuck together: you want to get to the next page but every time you have to stop and unstick them, it only gets in the way.
Is there a multiplayer racing mod for hl2? I feel like that would be fun
There's a racing mode in Jabroni Brawl Episode 3, a very silly sourcemod you can get from the steam store (afaik only requires HL2E2 to install), but there are only a few maps for it
Seems like there are a bunch of Garry's Mod maps for racing, idk if they include racing mechanics like laps and everything, but it seems like you could boot these up with a friend and just keep track of who is winning.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=297300168
Personally highway 17 is one of my favorite chapters of HL2 so I can't necessarily agree But I do think the warthog is much more fun
honestly I think Route Kanal is my favorite because it scratches that itch of exploring old forgotten areas, climbing around cavernous drain pipes and stuff allows for more creative architecture.
Was it only me that got like serious headache especially in those levels? Kinda nauseating.
Maybe it was because of my potato pc idk
A low FPS could maybe give you a kind of motion sickness or something? Plus the droning of the engine is kinda annoying, I never had that problem but I can totally see it.
What is droning?
"to make a low continuous noise that does not change its note"
I guess it isn't a particularly accurate term since the air boat's engine is more high pitched, but I use the term to evoke a sort of "perpetual rumbling" vibe, since when you're just driving it in straight lines for many maps its like riding on an airplane and (barring any noise cancelling devices) the noise of the engine is ever present.
That's interesting! I could totally see that being a factor, since I am not too good with noisy things. Maybe I'll check if turning volume off improves things.
Thanks for the explanation!
The vehicle levels in halo were better, but at least I could drive the airboat for longer than 30 seconds without flipping it.
Skill issue :D
I'm the weird guy who loves Water Hazard. Easily my favourite part of the game. Run the combine over with an airboat, break the scaffolds they are standing on, look at the goofy ragdolls. And I'm a bitch for sunsets.
"Follow Freeman" is the worst imo. I remember getting horribly lost there when I played HL2 as a kid. Same issue with Ravenholm - even when I play it now, but the vibe carries it.
In Halo the loading is seamless but in hlf2 its so annoying
That's true, but Halo also has actual level loading screens that take a few seconds, I think the in-game "Loading..." message is about entities/scripts or something.