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I've been a paying user since 2015. This makes me sad, as it's one of my most beloved utilities and this isn't a good look. I'll keep running it without updating until it stops working or I find a replacement that I like. Also:

https://sixcolors.com/link/2024/06/bartender-has-a-new-owner/

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[–] cbarrick 31 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's honestly wild that the core feature of Bartender (hiding icons in the menu bar) isn't builtin to macOS.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It is and it isn't. Apple isn't the best at managing development resources, so they seem to get stretched kinda thin when they take on too many projects. I know they have all the money in the world. That doesn't make them effective at managing many teams on many projects. They're already falling on their face on some of their software goals, at least from the outside. I'm happy enough for third-party devs to fill in niche features so long as Apple doesn't block them from doing so.

[–] FooBarrington 1 points 5 months ago

That was pretty much my experience with most of MacOS - you have to pay for many basic features, and pray that the tools have been updated to work on current OS versions.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you hold command you can click on an icon and drag it out to remove it or drag it left or right to reorganize the menu bar icons. Baked in, no extra app needed

[–] paraphrand 17 points 5 months ago

Removing isn’t the same as hiding.

[–] Ghostalmedia 1 points 5 months ago

Doesn’t work for all menu bar icons, and sometimes people just want to hide stuff as with the old classic macOS Control Strip.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That's a real shame. I've been trying to find a replacement for Bartender for ages, but I can't seem to find anything that matches up. Every alternative I've tested just isn't as good, so I always end up back with Bartender.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

@ASeriesOfPoorChoices @land Just FYI, Ice won't yet let you change the spacing between icons like Bartender does but if that's a concern see https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice/issues/67

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing! Do you know if it can show/hide icons based on screen size? I used to only hide my icons when I'm not connected to a larger screen with Bartender.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 1 points 5 months ago

haven't played with it yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is Dozer but it is pretty basic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dozer hasn’t been updated in the last five years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Good point, I didn’t notice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Discovered vanilla yesterday and are quite happy about it https://matthewpalmer.net/vanilla/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

@some_guy A few people in Reddit recommended Ice (https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice). If you are concerned that Ice doesn't (yet) allow adjusting the space between icons like Bartender does, see https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice/issues/67 - there the developer says it's on the roadmap but in the meantime there are a couple of links that show how to change it from the terminal.
#MacOS #Bartender5

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I'm not shy of command line config, so that's good to know. I copied both Ice and the other recommendation from SixColors to my RIL apps. I'll check them out when I start seeing reasons to move off of my present install of Bartender. Until then, it still does everything I want in ways that I like. Thanks for the heads up!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Thank you! For me, ice is the perfect replacement for bartender even though it doesn’t have all those features yet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm more concerned that it requires Accessibility and Screen Recording privileges to do the same job that Hidden Bar does without any of those.

Not that I don't trust the author here, since the source code is open after all – I simply do not have the time to audit it myself. And even if I did, I'd have to turn off auto update in order to prevent a similar switcharoo sneaking by without my knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@MacNCheezus Hidden Bar definitely looks interesting. Unfortunately, as with Ice it also does not include a way to change the spacing between the icons, so you would still have to use the terminal commands to do that, but I do appreciate the fact that it doesn't require those permissions. I have no idea why a program that only manipulates the visibility of items in the menu bar would need those permissions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It works for me. I used to be a paying customer of Bartender until I upgraded to Sonoma and was asked to pay yet again.

Hidden Bar may be somewhat minimalistic but it does the part I really need well enough. The extra features were nice but not really necessary.

[–] Nogami 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure exactly what the issue is aside from it being sold to a new developer. Is there personal info theft or issues with billing or upgrades?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It’s a common enough pattern where a reputable app is sold to a shady third party company, which then increases prices, and fills the app with ads and/or telemetry. It’s not really publicly known who the company is, and the company has shown no signs of transparency, which is the root of the trust issue.