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[–] Zehzin 128 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Yes, when a dictator actively oppressing his people, particularly women, says you're doing good, you should feel proud.

Edit:

Published on his official website on Thursday, the letter addresses students whose “awakened conscience has moved them to defend the oppressed women and children of Gaza.”

Holy mother of all cognitive dissonances.

[–] Viking_Hippie 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Fun fact: awful people agreeing for bad reasons doesn't make the cause itself bad. You're falling for one of the oldest yellow journalism tricks in the book.

This is the equivalent of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association publishing an excerpt from Mein Kampf extolling the virtues of vegetarianism.

[–] DMBFFF 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Didn't Nazi Germany ban vivisection?

What do you think of George Galloway's condemning Israel? He's right, but he has a few flaws (though certainly not as bad as the Nazis—I was a little ticked at people citing him several hours ago, though).

[–] Viking_Hippie 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same deal, basically, though not QUITE as bad: afair Galloway is very right about some things for good reasons (Israel obviously being one of them) and very wrong about others and possibly corrupt to boot.

His faults and bad ideas are irrelevant to whether or not genocide is bad, just like the theocratic despot in the article.

[–] DMBFFF 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (8 children)

he's doing what all right wing populists are doing these days; latching onto a popular movement and using it to both improve his popularity and divide his enemies

[–] Kolrami 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think this is exclusive to right wing populists.

He's simply congratulating the side he supports. Biden showed support for the Iranian protesters.

And before someone responds "um actually, Biden is as right wing as Clarence Thomas," Bernie Sanders showed support for the Iranian protesters too.

You'd be hard pressed to find someone to the left of Bernie Sanders who doesn't support Iranians protesting the right to not be killed for wearing a hijab improperly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

fair point!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

By that logic, since Trump supports Israel and says that Israel should finish the job, should Israel now also be proud?

[–] DMBFFF 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump bad, Israeli genocide of Palestinians bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Absolutely! Just not agreeing with the logic that there’s any meaning behind some dipshit supporting the same thing you do. Although I admit that I chose a bad example.

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[–] Tyfud 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He's not saying that to try and make Palestine or himself look good, he's saying that to try and make Israel look bad.

That's it.

[–] gedaliyah 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

As a Turk, let me just add:

It's very well known that the AA is basically just Tayyip's propoganda machine. It's a very hard bias towards whatever he's looking to say, at that point in time, not necessarily right or left wing.

[–] DMBFFF 6 points 5 months ago
[–] small44 23 points 5 months ago

Right words for the wrong guy

[–] slurpinderpin 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Exactly the guy you want supporting your cause

[–] Viking_Hippie 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's probably why they're writing about it: to make the uninformed equate anti genocide protesters and anyone else who objects to the atrocities being committed by the Israeli apartheid regime with him.

[–] DMBFFF 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

not all of Israel's opponents are good; and this one funds Hamas.

[–] Viking_Hippie 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That's 100% irrelevant. Sometimes awful people support good causes for bad reasons. That doesn't make the cause bad.

Genocide doesn't become acceptable just because ACTUAL antisemites are anti-zionist too.

BTW, Israel also funded Hamas

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[–] eskimofry 3 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Hey it's not like we can pick and choose what old fucks like to say on TV or to the press... especially if it's conveniently what Israel apologists want to happen.

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[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 5 months ago

Please stop "helping."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

This would only make me doubt if I do in fact stand on the right side.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago
[–] skeezix 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You mean a 'cancer which is mobile' or a 'cancer for mobile devices' (displaying incorrectly?)?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The cancer is moving! It's gonna get you

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[–] StaySquared 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Anyone standing up for humanity is on the right side of history. That's a no brainer.

[–] DMBFFF 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is Ali Khamenei on the right side of history?

[–] StaySquared 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Ali Khamenei

If the U.S. and overall Western Powers minded it's own fkin business...

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد), was the U.S.- and British-instigated, Iranian army-led overthrow of the elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favor of strengthening the monarchical rule of the shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, on 19 August 1953

Isn't that interesting? We fail to really investigate how something comes to fruition. But then again we rely on investigative journalists.. who are owned by corporations who tell them what and how to report.

Had the Western powers minded its business, Iran would have still been friendly and continued to incorporate Western values. But they learned their lesson, they swayed from the path and got burned. Not making that mistake again, eh?

[–] DMBFFF 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah.

Mosaddegh was overthrown in 1953 because of US and UK, and about 25 years later, Iran became an Islamic theocracy, which has lasted for about 45 years and seems will continue into its 6th decade.

Well done, America-haters.

[–] IndustryStandard 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We did it ~~reddit~~ America

[–] Linkerbaan 2 points 5 months ago

Yes we know about Operation Ajax, but did you know about

Jimmy Carter's engagement with Ruhollah Khomeini

In 2016, the BBC published a report which stated that the administration of United States President Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) had extensive contact with Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and his entourage in the prelude to the Iranian Revolution of 1979. The report was based on "newly declassified US diplomatic cables". According to the report, as mentioned by The Guardian, Khomeini "went to great lengths to ensure the Americans would not jeopardise his plans to return to Iran - and even personally wrote to US officials" and assured them not to worry about their interests in Iran, particularly oil. According to the report, in turn, Carter and his administration helped Khomeini and made sure that the Imperial Iranian army would not launch a military coup.

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