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Aid workers fear a new disaster as militia forces close in on a major Darfur city.

On a sunny April afternoon in 2006, thousands of people flocked to the National Mall in Washington, D.C., for a rally with celebrities, Olympic athletes, and rising political stars. Their cause: garner international support to halt a genocide in Sudan’s Darfur region.

“If we care, the world will care. If we act, then the world will follow,” Barack Obama, then the junior Illinois senator, told the crowd, speaking alongside future House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. That same week, then-Sen. Joe Biden introduced a bill in Congress calling on NATO to intervene to halt the genocide in Sudan. “We need to take action on both a military and diplomatic front to end the conflict,” he said.

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[–] carl_dungeon 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, they’re ignoring the one in Palestine and the one in China, and even taking sides against Ukraine, so how is this any different?

[–] zeppo 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Palestine seems like 60% of what I hear about in national news and on Lemmy. Ukraine, though, no so much. People can't use it to talk shit about Biden, after all.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The Kremlin is pumping social media full of anti-Biden propaganda, using Israel's genocide as a wedge to split the Democratic vote so they can get Trump elected again.

[–] zeppo 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, 100% agree. No coincidence Netanyahu is a far right fascist and would prefer Trump himself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, people act like they're going to piss off Israel's government by not voting for Biden. Bibi says thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

People can’t use it to talk shit about Biden, after all.

No. The Kremlin and Trumpers are using it to single out Biden so people will forget them and trade Bad for Much Worse.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ignoring the one in Palestine

???

It's impossible to go on any social media without hearing about it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

But no one is stopping it, so they’re ignoring it

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The United Nations has been reporting the famine and war crimes in Sudan for decades.

[–] AdamEatsAss 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hate to say it but it's been going on for too long, most people don't care anymore. New conflicts have taken the spotlight.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Doesn't really explain it, I mean the underlying Palestine/Israel thing has been going on for decades too.

The current Sudanese Civil War has only been going on for 6 months longer than the current Israel vs Gaza hostilities.

[–] undergroundoverground 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Thats an easy one, America isn't openly funding the side committing genocide and threatening to liberate anyone who doesn't like what they do back into the stone age, in Sudan.

Its really not hard to see, if you're prepared to see it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The honest answer is that I can only care about so many ongoing genocides at once before I go numb towards it. And I am more invested in the one happening two countries over. And the absurdly cynical one committed by a people who had plenty of genocides happen against them over the course of history.

[–] Agent641 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, Ill go fix it now that you've brought it to my attention.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

No Jira ticket, no fixy.

[–] victorz 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How many concurrent genocides do we have going on right now in the world? Like four? Five? I'm not sure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not all armed conflicts are genocides.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Indeed, but normally you need a suspension of normal life like a war to make a genocide possible, so it is more useful to look at this very comprehensive list to be aware of potential or ongoing genocides than wait for one to have been officially confirmed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides find one that isn't associated with a war.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

@victorz - The "fast"/ big obvious ones are Darfur and Gaza, but there's also probably Oromia, slow genocide in West Papua, Western Sahara, Xinjiang, and I think Nagorny-Karabakh and Tigray could start up again at some point. There is obviously a genocidal component to the Tatmadaw's activities in Myanmar but right now they seem to be getting their asses kicked by the alliance which includes ethnic minority armies.

Then there are the more obscure genocides that are mostly only mentioned outside western and english-language news media, for example the ongoing slow genocide of the Baloch people in the Balochistan region.

[–] SlothMama 17 points 1 month ago

This is literally the first time I'm hearing about it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Looming? Sudan is past the looming stage. When do known verified atrocities reach "current reality" status?

[–] unreasonabro 12 points 1 month ago

shouldn't that be "why is the world ignoring a looming genocide in sudan again?"

[–] machineLearner 12 points 1 month ago

In the US at least, our policy today doesn’t affect this genocide. Outside of Sudan, the important parties are Egypt, the UAE, and factions in Libya. Whereas in Palestine US missiles and funding to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars are directly involved, US policy today does not affect Sudan materially.

Still though, the UN and other international organs are documenting and attempting to aid. It’s just not disputed by far right fucks in our government.

[–] tsonfeir 11 points 1 month ago (6 children)

We can’t even handle the genocides we have now. Someone wants another? Ffs.

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[–] anticolonialist 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pulls out Peter Griffin skin tone threat chart

[–] mlg 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

tbf they didn't care about the bosnian genocide either

They should update that meme with a list of money sources

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Get in line behind Palestine and the Uyghurs so we can ignore you too!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] afraid_of_zombies 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It isn't trendy and I don't get to cosplay like I care about it.

[–] assassin_aragorn 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Some people put their politics ahead of genocide. They'll deny it's a genocide if it doesn't fit their agenda. They'll take an absolute stance if it does fit their agenda.

It's a tale as old as time. Chomsky is a very good example of this.

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[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 month ago

Who's going to recognize the Darfur flag when I put it in my Facebook profile?

[–] BarbecueCowboy 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sudan isn't popular because it's difficult to tie either side of the conflict to a specific political party. No one gets too many political points for speaking for/against.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[–] NABDad 4 points 1 month ago

Because ignoring genocides is what the world does.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Because neither side is America's aIly of course.

I went on tiktok yesterday and noticed a bunch of Gen Z mentioning Sudan and DRC as well as the Gaza Genocide. So that was better than usual.

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