I suppose the only thing I disagree with is that the law can do anything about it. Obviously, you can go after sites that have money and/or a real business presence, a la Pornhub. But the rest? It's the wild west.
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Yeah, it's a hydra.
Cut off the head, 3 more grow back.
You can't ban the tech but you can ban the act so it's easier to prosecute people that upload deep fakes of their co-workers.
That's already illegal in most countries, regardless of how it was made. It also has nothing to do with "AI".
Obviously, you can go after sites that have money and/or a real business presence, a la Pornhub. But the rest? It's the wild west.
I was referring to that part of his comment. It is also not at all illegal in most countries. Its only illegal at state level in the US for example, and not for all of them either. Canada only has 8 provinces with legislation against it.
I do agree though that it's not the softwares fault. Bad actors should be punished and nothing more.
I feel an easy and rational solution is to criminalize a certain category of defamation… presenting something untrue/fabricated as true/real or in a way that it could be construed as true/real.
Anything other than that narrow application is an infringement on the First Amendment.
The majority of "AI" generated / altered porn is already very much labeled as such though.
Exactly. Photoshop has been around for decades. AI is just more of the same. I find it weird how, as technology evolves, people keep fixating on the technologies themselves rather than the universal (sometimes institutional) patterns of abuse.
I feel an easy and rational solution is to criminalize a certain category of defamation… presenting something untrue/fabricated as true/real or in a way that it could be construed as true/real.
I would love that solution, but it definitely wouldn't have bipartisan support.
There are certain political groups that have a vested interest in lying, deceiving, manipulating, and fabricating to get what they want. So… yeah. 😞
I feel that's just most political groups nowadays. Not implying both sides are the same, just that everyone likes their lies.
But that just is illegal already.
It’s not, though. Not remotely. At least not in the US.
Defamation of an individual (including “individual” entities like an org or business) is purely a civil matter, and defamation in a broader sense, such as against “antifa” or “leftists” or “jews” or “gays” et al, has no remedy whatsoever, civil or criminal.
Just another reason why we can't ethically introduce AI.
Pandoras box has already been cracked way open. Shit is already in military application.
Can AIs really consent, though?
Anyone could run it on their own computer these days, fully local. What could the government do about that even if they wanted to?
The govt's job is not to prevent crime from happening, that's dystopian-tier stuff. Their job is to determine what the law is, and apply consequences to people after they are caught breaking it.
The job of preventing crime from happening in the first place mainly belongs to lower-level community institutions, starting with parents and teachers.
Anyone can make CSAM in their basement, what could the government do about that even if they wanted to?
Anyone can buy a pet from a pet store, take it home and abuse it, why is animal abuse even illegal?
Should I keep going with more examples?
What do you want them to do, have constant monitoring on your computer to see what applications you open? Flag suspicious GPU or power usage and send police to knock on your door? Abusing people or animals requires real outside involvement. You are equating something that a computer generates with real life, while they have nothing to do with each other.
Who is suggesting that?
Murder is illegal, do we surveil everyone who owns a gun or knife?
CSAM is illegal, do cameras all report to the government?
Again, that’s just 2 examples. Lmk if you want more
Maybe my wording is unclear. I am wondering how they should be expected to detect it in the first place. Murder leaves a body. Abuse leaves a victim. Generating files on a computer? Nothing of the sort, unless it is shared online. What would a new regulation achieve that isn't already covered under the illegality of 'revenge porn?' Furthermore, how can they possibly even detect anything beyond that without massive privacy breaches as I wrote before?