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submitted 3 weeks ago by Potatos_are_not_friends to c/thepoliceproblem

The creator of a “FUCK the LAPD” shirt sold out not only his entire stock of that shirt but also sold out many of his other designs after the Los Angeles Police Department Foundation made an intellectual property threat against them that claimed they owned the letters ‘LAPD.’

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[-] [email protected] 183 points 3 weeks ago

Better be careful. It's dangerous to to speak out against powerful local gangs.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago

But what is the ~~taxes~~ protection money I pay them for, for?!

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Better arming them, of course.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

It’s for your protection. You can always tell how well you’re protected by the number & severity of the injuries you receive from your protectors.

If your protectors kill you, be honored, humbled, & thankful! Rejoice in knowing you were served & protected the best!

[-] UltraMagnus0001 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I like the Black Eye Peas where is the love? Also Tupac and the NWA singing about LAPD gangs. The Wire is an excellent show that explains the system from the top to the bottom. We Own the City by The Wire creators is a mini series about gangs of cops terrorizing their neighborhood based on actual events. Jon Betnthal is such an underrated actor.

[-] [email protected] 90 points 3 weeks ago

Streisand Effect working as expected.

[-] kamenlady 37 points 3 weeks ago

Australia's richest woman Gina Rinehart has set a high bar.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago

As an Aussie it brings me so much joy knowing the world is mocking that racist fat cunt. She is a disgusting example of a human being.

[-] strawberrysocial 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] Armok_the_bunny 12 points 3 weeks ago

Please, anyone who reads this, stop posting links to the mobile version of Wikipedia. It doesn’t switch automatically on PC, and I see it happen all the time. Just take the half a second to remove the “.m” from the beginning of the link, save everyone else from the pain of having to be surprised by it and taking the time to do it themselves.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Ironically I actually copied this link after selecting view desktop version in Firefox.

[-] Armok_the_bunny 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's a copy paste I try to have on hand because probably more than half the wikipedia links I see are mobile ones. The fact that you make the effort is very appreciated.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

It works just fine on my desktop. And yeah, posting sanitized urls is just good practice.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Some day Wikipedia will learn how to use the "media" tag in CSS.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That sounds like a you problem buddy

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] aeronmelon 33 points 3 weeks ago
[-] dohpaz42 19 points 3 weeks ago

I’m all for anarchy, and IANAL, but being that there is an active trademark for word LAPD in the clothing industry, I could see the City of Los Angelos (the actual trademark holders) having a leg to stand on. Note that the address on the trademark is not the address of the LAPF.

[-] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago

Here’s the thing about Trademarks though:

Trademarks exist to protect consumers from confusion in the market, NOT primarily to protect the owner of the trademark.

So, like, a restaurant calling themselves McDonald’s could reasonably be assumed to be operated by the McDonald’s Corporation.

This makes trademarks distinct from both patents and copyright.

Do you honestly believe a rational consumer would mistake this design for one originating from the LAPD?

https://academic.oup.com/book/41769/chapter-abstract/354401357?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

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European Trade Mark Law Kur Annette and Martin Senftleben Contents Contents Search in this book CHAPTER 3 Rationales of Trade Mark Protection Get access Arrow Kur Annette, Martin Senftleben https://doi.org/10.1093/oso/9780199680443.003.0002 Pages 1–26 Published: March 2017 Annotate icon Annotate Cite Icon Cite Permissions Icon Permissions Share Icon Share Abstract Although trade mark law is generally regarded as forming part of the larger body of intellectual property, the protection mechanism underlying its functioning is distinct from other intellectual property rights. Patents, copyright, or design rights award creative or innovative achievements with a limited period of market exclusivity thus creating artificial scarcity of the respective commodities. This grants the proprietor of such rights the possibility to raise prices above the marginal costs so as to recoup the investments made. Whether and to what extent that strategy is successful and even allows gaining a premium is determined by the market. Trade mark law coincides with that scheme insofar as it also engages market forces to determine commercial gains or losses. However, instead of creating artificial exclusivity of the goods or services offered, it provides a communication channel for entrepreneurs, so as to identify the goods or services originating from their business, distinguish them from competing goods, and transport product-related messages they want to convey to their customers. This, by reflex, provides information to the market, guiding consumer choice towards goods satisfying their demands, and helping to avoid those they do not want, at minimal search costs (see paragraph 1.08 et seq.). Thus, instead of restricting competition on the production level, trade marks are designed as an enabling tool without which competition in today’s mass markets would not function at all. ‘’’

[-] SkyezOpen 50 points 3 weeks ago

This, and the dumbass lawyer representing the LAPF sent a DMCA takedown, explicitly calling it copyright infringement, which is most certainly is not

https://www.techdirt.com/2024/05/14/when-lol-no-is-not-enough-lawyer-explains-why-bogus-takedown-over-fuck-the-lapd-shirt-should-result-in-paying-legal-fees/

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Great read, thanks for sharing.

FYI there's a link in that article that goes to the initial, and much more brief, walkthrough of the original letter, and it's comically short response.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

That was a great read. Thank you.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

DMCA is only copyright so it had to be a copyright claim. You could probably argue that this claim was in bad faith, but that's a lot of work to actually prove.

[-] SkyezOpen 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

No seriously, read it, it's fucking hilarious.

I'm almost afraid to ask you to explain how you might have formed such a belief, but feel free to take a shot at it.

In a footnote on page 3

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Mike Dunford, Cola's lawyer, is fantastic. He has a Twitch channel (questauthority) if you want to hear more from him.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Why wasn't this good enough to protect The South Butt? Or was it just a legal might makes right kind of thing

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Aecosthedark 1 points 3 weeks ago

Can explain why you think its different? They both seem like they are obvious parodies and should fall under similar rulings/precedents.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago

This might actually fall under 1st amendment and parody laws

[-] stoly 7 points 3 weeks ago

This is exactly the case.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm conflicted about this. I think some smaller companies that individuals should have the ability to protect their intellectual property but at the same time I think it's far too long for mega corporations to own IP.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's not something we can do overnight. It would require a strong culture of patronage.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I agree. I think one thing we can all agree on is that patents that used any, even a cent of public funds cannot be granted a patent. Also at the same time, our government should have their own drug research center that creates drugs that are available for all humanity to use.

[-] Glytch 1 points 3 weeks ago

Especially the one in the thumbnail, given that it parodies the Lakers logo as well.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

I own a pretty nice CTS-V and I had a cop and his buddy try to shake me down to sell it to him.

It was fucking bizarre like "is this America?"

[-] massacre 7 points 3 weeks ago

How does that even work?

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