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[–] Funkytom467 80 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is a fucking differential equation with unknown constants, so yeah, everyone will be burning...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or Google it...

Honeywell's default override code is either 1234, or the datecode of the thermostat. YYMM. Date code typically works as a second code. 1234 is just the default.

[–] Exusia 1 points 1 month ago

Googling this equation shows that it is a Navier Stokes equation. It is the equation that dictates why fluids behave like fluids. From ketchup to lava you can plug the right numbers in and get a model of the fluid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maybe use c~1~ and c~2~?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Navier Stokes equations represent the universal laws of physics that can model any fluid in the universe.

These equations have been around since almost two centuries now but we still understand very little about them. When we have a set of equations we expect the following to happen-

  1. Solution should exist- One should be able to solve the equations

  2. Solution should be unique- Given particular initial conditions, one should obtain an unique solution to the problem. For example if you and your friend pour water into a container in an identical way, keeping all parameters (pouring velocity, direction, geometry and dimensions of the container, etc) identical then you both should get the same flow pattern. Water in both the containers should behave in exactly the same way. If your friend gets air bubbles at a point then you should get them at the exact same point as well.

  3. Solution should be smooth- A finite change in the input should produce a finite change in the output. It should not be erratic and unpredictable.

Unfortunately, Navier Stokes equations do not satisfy any of the conditions mentioned above.

https://medium.com/@ases2409/navier-stokes-equations-the-million-dollar-problem-78c01ec05d75

[–] Reddfugee42 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Navier Stokes equations represent the universal laws of physics that can model any fluid in the universe.

Clearly you've never had a Pan-galactic Gargle Blaster.

[–] SmackemWittadic 2 points 1 month ago

I got one of those between my legs, which explains why no one has ever heard of it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is still waiting a prize of $1 Millon solving it, fuck the Thermostat

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One thing I remember from physics is if you have to guess, the most common answer is zero.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a physics major this is very true. The answers are always 0, 1, or π

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] chemical_cutthroat 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only if you are blowing shit up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If your signal looks like f(t) = K•u(t)e^at with u(t) = {1 if t≥0, 0 else}:

  • If Real(a) > 0, then your signal will eventually blow up.
  • If Real(a) < 0, then you signal will not blow up. In fact, your signal will have a maximum absolute value of |K|, and it will approach zero as time goes on.
  • If Real(a) = 0, it is either a complex sinusoid or a constant. In either case, it is bounded with maximum absolute value of |K|. It very much does not blow up.

So e pops up all the time in stable systems and bounded signals because the function e^at solves the common differential equation dx/dt = ax(t) with x(0)=1 regardless of the value of a, particularly regardless of whether or not the real part of a causes the solution to blow up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Usually it is e^t or something similar

[–] Thcdenton 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

73 is my ideal temp, but fuck lockin the thermostat. It should be set lowest temp desired by anyone. You can always wear a hoodie. But the human torch in your life can only get so naked.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait until you pay the bill and someone thinks they need to crank the heat instead of putting on a sweater.

[–] Thcdenton 3 points 1 month ago

My dads like that. He's diabetic and he doesn't like blankets 🙃

[–] Passerby6497 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's all well and good until you have someone in your household with circulatory issues and can't warm themselves up effectively. Sucks having to be warm all the time so they're not cold and in pain.

[–] Thcdenton 5 points 1 month ago

Yup I mentioned that earlier with my pops. He hates the ac. I'll roast a little bit if it helps him tho.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink 26 points 1 month ago

Used a screen shot to Google this and it turns out to be some unsolved ancient equation regarding the laws of physics. Or something that I dont understand. And have probably misrepresented here.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Easy to solve.

Buy one of those electric hand warmers and wedge it between the two thermostats.

[–] boatsnhos931 2 points 1 month ago

I like the cut of your jib! 😝

[–] nikaaa 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wait isn't this just some fluid physics equation?

Like, incompressible fluid flow, iirc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It looks like it given the symbols used. P for pressure, rho for density etc. u-arrow is definitely a vector field, so it could be fluid flow. Otherwise it could be equally anything described by a vector field, like electromagnetism or gravity but they usually have a lot more E and G involved I think. I used to solve these but then I got a certificate so now I don't have to.

[–] supercriticalcheese 4 points 1 month ago

It's a fluid dynamics equation, cannot be analytically solved unless laminar flow assumption is valid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It really reminds me of all those static and velocity pressure calculations I had to do in undergrad, until I got the degree.

[–] nikaaa 2 points 1 month ago

u stands for velocity.

[–] supercriticalcheese 4 points 1 month ago

Naviers stokes equation looks incompressibility fluid. Only possible to solve it for strictly laminar flow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_equations#Incompressible_flow

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] nikaaa 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah i mean, now you know what to search for on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Them funny hieroglyphics ain’t nowhere on MY keyboard.

Dunno what kinda crazy com’nist Martian setup y’all are runnin’.

[–] plz1 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Irony is, a lot of larger office building thermostats are really only there for display purposes (thermometer), not for control purposes (actually functional).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Often tenants can change the thermostat to whatever they want visually, but in the background it caps at a certain value or doesn't change the set point at all

[–] Feathercrown 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Am I missing something or does the top equation knock out half the terms? It simplifies to just F = delta + deriv. of u wrt t, right?

(Assuming p =/= 0)

Wait nope some of those ps and us are different. Oh no

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also its not delta, its upside down delta called "Del" (or nabla) which is an operator like derivative but in vector feilds

[–] Feathercrown 6 points 1 month ago

This deal keeps getting worse every day 😭

[–] Wizard_Pope 3 points 1 month ago

Because some of those are rho and mu

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Or if you know what you are doing electrically speaking pull the thermostat off the wall and connect the cooling/heating line to common for a bit; I think it would actually be less effort

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

My work set the password to the facilities manager's phone extension which could just be looked up in the internal directory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Aren't those locked with actual keys?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Easy, I just need a wire, toothpaste, bubblegum, and and a watch crystal. Problem solved!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No boundary and initial conditions?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Or you could point a flamethrower at the sensor..

For less drastic response, put your hand on the sensor.

[–] db2 1 points 1 month ago

Or just add 1234 to the date code.