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Biden: what would Trump have done if the Capitol riots had been led by Black Americans? (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/news

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Joe Biden has launched one of his most scathing attacks yet on Donald Trump’s record of racism, suggesting that the former US president would have acted differently to the January 6 2021 insurrection if was led by Black people.

The remarks, at a dinner hosted by a civil rights organisation in a critical swing state, pointed to an intensifying battle between Biden and Trump for African American voters ahead of November’s presidential election.

“Let me ask you,” Biden said during an address to an NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) dinner in Detroit. “What do you think he would have done on January 6 if Black Americans had stormed the Capitol?”

There was a collective gasp and murmur in the cavernous convention centre, where an estimated 5,000 guests had gathered. The president insisted: “No, I’m serious. What do you think? I can only imagine.”

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[–] FuglyDuck 137 points 7 months ago (2 children)

it would never have happened in the first place. if roles were reversed, there would have been adequate forces in place to prevent it from escalating.

Remember, Trump made sure to have a relatively light law enforcement presence in the capital. There were no unscalable barricades present. there was no call for the Nat Guard- despite assurances they were ready to go, and that was trump's call.

the entire insurrection was planned by people who wanted to put trump back in the white house by any means necessary. I don't know that it was entirely planned by trump- he's a moron- but it was certainly done with his cooperation.

[–] grue 98 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly: we saw precisely how it would have worked during the Black Lives Matter protests the summer before:

As far as I'm concerned, that stark dichotomy is absolute proof in and of itself (let alone the pile of other evidence) that the coup was orchestrated from the very top.

[–] FuglyDuck 6 points 7 months ago

As far as I’m concerned, that stark dichotomy is absolute proof in and of itself (let alone the pile of other evidence) that the coup was orchestrated from the very top.

Absolutely.

anybody who doubts it is either complicit or has been buried under a rock for the last... decade or so.

[–] rayyy 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it was certainly done with his cooperation

He directed it. His stooges were very close to success though.

[–] FuglyDuck 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes. They were. It's fairly scary.

And very Beerhall Putsch-ish. too bad his base doesn't bother to learn history correctly, and that's why we're all doomed.

[–] grue 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You sure about that? Seems to me his base is learning its history just fine, since they're managing to speedrun Hitler's rise to power even faster than Hitler did.

We've really got to quit underestimating the enemy and get serious about defending ourselves.

[–] FuglyDuck 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

those aren't the bulk of his base.

Most of his base are deluded into thinking he's not actually like hitler. That he's some how moral, and a really good guy who would never.
Most of his base are morons voting against their own interests.

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[–] whotookkarl 85 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No need to guess, just look at how Trump's confederates treat BLM protestors and their executioners: https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/14/daniel-perry-racist-comments-texas-shooting-austin-protester/

Abbott made good on his promise and pardoned Perry last week for the murder a jury found him guilty of committing.

[–] lennybird 85 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

There would be non-stop coverage of Jan 6 on Fox News 24/7 since the day it happened, guaranteed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Someone lights a dumpster on fire -

"Washington DC - BURNED TO THE GROUND BY BLM!"

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

In Detroit a leader of the Pro-Palestinian protesters said "This community will be the community who unseats Joe Biden. … A president who has fostered an atmosphere of hate against our community."

Just that ignorance of Muslim and Palestinians here. The atmosphere of hate is coming from Trump and the Republicans and these people are openly supporting him. Being used by the right to help bring more prejudice and racist policies to their people. Trump gets elected and you can say goodbye to any chance of Palestinian recovery. The Israelis are not going to stop with Gaza. Once it's secured the war with the west bank will begin.

[–] rayyy 52 points 7 months ago (41 children)

Pro-Palestinian protesters said “This community will be the community who unseats Joe Biden.

Yeah, those ranks of "protesters" are riddled with Republican/Putin operatives. If Biden is unseated, say goodbye to Palestine. Israel will have the green light to eradicate the people of Gaza.

[–] partial_accumen 39 points 7 months ago

Palestine, Ukraine, and Taiwan sovereignty will all be eliminated under Trump.

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[–] TrickDacy 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And if you disagree with them, they'll literally claim you love genocide. I've seen that repeatedly. Dumbest shit ever

[–] disguy_ovahea 14 points 7 months ago

Are you surprised that they support the guy that banned Muslim refugees just one year into office?

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/licence-discriminate-trumps-muslim-refugee-ban

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (20 children)

In Detroit a leader of the Pro-Palestinian protesters said "This community will be the community who unseats Joe Biden. … A president who has fostered an atmosphere of hate against our community."

This person will be at the front of the line to have their citizenship stripped & exiled if Trump is elected.

If you don't think Trump will do it & SCotUS will allow it, you're a dangerous moron.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 50 points 7 months ago

Shot a bunch of people, to start. Probably after getting some sort of military in. Who knows, after that. Martial law? Dictator for life?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I suspect there would be lots of bullets flying around and not the rubber ones

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

It would be as huge a deal as the twintowers attack.

[–] sucricdrawkcab 14 points 7 months ago

We would instantly transport back into the 1950's. After "animals" "thugs" gets thrown out his z league faux military supporters would be outraged and a lot of people would get killed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I remember saying at the time of these were black Americans they'd have been shooting immediately. There would have been fucking Blackhawks deployed and a show of force like you've never seen on your life.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Then America would have another Tiananmen Square to add to the MOVE bombing, Tulsa, Waco, etc.

[–] Treczoks 8 points 7 months ago

If the Jan 6 insurrection had been done by people of color, Trump would have seen to that the few survivors would be severely punished. The rest would have been dumped in a mass grave.

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