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[–] [email protected] 121 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This is the fourth or fifth one I’ve read about today. The kids are effecting change. I love it.

[–] Crackhappy 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for spelling effecting correctly.

[–] blazeknave 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Isn't effect a noun, affect a verb? Am I supposed to discern which in other ways?

[–] ClockworkOtter 12 points 6 months ago

To "affect" a change would be to alter the change itself, for example if the university had already been reviewing its portfolio then the protesters might be affecting the change by making it happen more quickly.

To "effect" a change would be to cause the change in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This is one of the few oddities of the English language that I struggle with constantly. It seems like, as a native speaker, most of the other ones just "feel" or "sound" right, but I haven't been able to nail that down with effect/affect for some reason

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

You know, I'm also super pedantic about this and only learned I'd been doing it wrong very recently.

[–] VelvetStorm 29 points 6 months ago (3 children)

These are full-grown adults in university. They are not kids.

[–] JWBananas 20 points 6 months ago

It's all relative

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

I greeted my fellow 20-ish-year-olds with "what's up kids" at that age as a way of saying we were still young party machines. I am not disrespecting these folks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (16 children)

I don't think I'd consider most 18 year old "full grown adults"

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[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In this case, no change happened because the university didn't invest in Israel in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

The students being allowed to peacefully protest at all is a nice change, and hearing about it could encourage other peaceful protesters, who could enact more direct change

[–] unreasonabro 78 points 6 months ago (19 children)

it's like violence is the response of an idiot or something

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[–] gedaliyah 30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Sacramento State’s updated policy states that it “does not have any direct investments in these areas” right now but, in accordance with students’ demands, its investment portfolios will “remain free of such direct investments.”

Students: We're protesting until our school stops investing in stuff that's bad!

University: Uh, we already don't.

Students: We did it! We freed Palestine!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't think the students though that divesting would save all the Palestinians. I mean, I am sure one person did, but that is what happens when you have a large group of people. I think they just wanted to apply pressure against Israel where they could.

I think it is based and probably the most effective thing they could do to stop the genocide.

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[–] unreasonabro 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, you jest, but a lot of the time, all you can do in this world is limit your own contribution to the problem

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That and vote to regulate wrongdoings. It sounds so obvious and yet somehow we're losing that battle.

[–] Snapz 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You attempt a lazy joke here because it seems you need attention, but policy like this matters, especially when things get "quiet" again after the spotlight fades. Also, in addition to divestment, the university also met their demand to appoint “a faculty member from Faculty for Justice in Palestine to sit on the finance committee, ensuring that investments remain ethical every year.”

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[–] Cas9111 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They did win. They know now that University is morally right and doesn't support a genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Wow, I guess listening to the protesters instead of calling cops on them is crazy 🙄

[–] jeffw 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s… that’s the joke

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You know what, honestly, I can't blame the above commenter. Have you seen some of the trash headlines are made of these days?

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