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Changed my review to positive. I also added a note that a thumbs down from a second bait-and-switch won't be coming back up.
HD2 is a very rare example of a AAA live service game done right, Sony really had to come this close to fucking up what will be one of their top sellers.
In related news, HD2 is already Sony's 7th best selling game. Of all time.
Note: this wasn't my original source, but still
Yeah fuck no. AH can sue Sony for this (and should). But my review stays there for life as a reminder to Sony (and anyone else who tries to pull this shit).
Just because they backed down =/= they did the right thing. They caved to public (and I'm sure legal) pressure. Nothing more. Fuck Sony and fuck changing a review because WE made a company back down.
No no no no no. No.
If steam hadn't started refunding i dont even think that they'd have changed their mind
Shouldn't the review reflect what the game actually is though?
If the game ships with
additional unnecessary activation requirements
a rootkit
Then those factors should affect the reviews. You're not reviewing specific segments of a product, you're sharing your experience start to finish.
That's why steam has a review system based on dates, bad reviews will go away as time goes on if the game goes the right direction, the negative reviews simply serve as a point you can see that they fucked up, like a review time capsule. That's how I see it.
I'm not changing mine until (1) after the 30th, (2) game is back on for purchase in restricted countries, and (3) Sony doesn't backpedal yet again before then.
Look, I honestly get the sentiment and AH deserves the praise for sure, but at this point I honestly can't confidently say I trust Sony to not just be doing all this for positive PR.
People make mistakes, even intentional ones. I'm a big believer in recognising when people admit to their mistakes because otherwise why even bother to right any wrongs you have made?
100%. I hate how everyone wants to completely burn all bridges with people who make mistakes, even when they own up and demonstrate that they understand what was incorrect about their actions. It's a very pervasive attitude on the internet and it's leaking into real life too.
Absolutely cut out toxic people and companies that continue to abuse, but recognize legitimate attempts to change and give people credit.
To be fair, this was less of a "legitimate attempt to change" and more "the devs and community forced Sony's hand."
I am 100% behind this sentiment outside of continued abuse (like that of nearly every publishing company in the video game industry) as long as they apologize.
But the problem is that corporations are not people. One of the biggest downfalls of America getting into the shit situation that it is in was legally treating corporations as people. It screwed them over
The same is true socially. Corporations are not people. They are composed of people, but the problem is that many or most people will compromise their personal values to keep their job or get a promotion. That has been shown time and time again. A corporation's goal is 100% exclusively, both legally and internally, to make profit for the shareholders. It will do whatever possible, screw over whoever possible, and even harm whoever necessary to create extra profit for shareholders. (Ex. Boeing, Nestle, Coke, Blackrock, palantir, exxon, the lidt goes on) The only thing that makes them back down in regulation or people threatening their profits.
This time, gamers were vocal enough, outraged enough, and ready to actually affect their profits (and future prospects of microtransactions or profitable sequels) enough for them to back down.
THEY DID NOT EVEN APOLOGIZE, read their statement, they did not make a mistake, they just chose a wrong time to try to squeeze some extra profit and were surprised that the pushback was enough to affect their profits and not just fade away like it usually does.
Whether or not they're going to walk back the changes, steam still has the game delisted in the countries where you can't make a psn account. Until that block is lifted, not changing my review at all.
Right on! NO ONE CHANGE THEIR REVIEW! This needs to be there for ever. So when Sony a year down the road thinks "maybe?" they can see what happened last time.
No no no no. Review states indefinitely!
Good reminder. Was happy I got to update mine. And for folks saying "future buyers should know about this bullshit", leave the original content, just update the rating and add some commentary.
Definitely will do that, the game itself is still very fun and not deserving of the bad ratings.
And with Sony finally having gotten the message (for the time being at least) they faced their mistake and were willing to make up for it, which doesn't happen too often these days. And I do appreciate that.
I don’t think they should, TBH. Sony needs the reminder that this was a giant mistake. HD2 is already a successful game with extremely positive reviews from before the PSN issue. Now that we know the HD2 dev was not included in the decision to require PSN, not many still hold a grudge against Arrowhead.
If they hold to their promise going forward, the reviews will start coming down/changing. Let’s just see how they deal with Ghosts of Tsushima release.
I did Monday morning before work, if we punish them when we are upset, they fix it, and we continue to punish them then what is Sony's incentive for backpedaling ?
If it takes this much effort to pass over 'feedback' for them to learn about the PC platform, then i think the reviews deserve to stay. Its the price SONY chose to pay
Why? Nothing has changed yet.
Wait, did they ever stop people logging on? Was this drama over a promise in the future?
I thought everyone was blocked from logging on over the weekend and they only recently promised to remove that feature.
did they ever stop people logging on?
No, this wouldn't have happened until May 30th as the tweet mentions. Starting May 6th is when new players would have been required to sign up for a PSN account before playing the game for the first time.
Was this drama over a promise in the future?
Yes, nothing actually changed on the players' side of things. The announcement was made and subsequently backtracked on before any updates to the game were even pushed out. No one was blocked from logging in at any point, but they were told that without a PSN account by the end of May, they would have been.
I absolutely will as soon as i get home from work!
Backpeddeling works and is very cool.