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Change your Steam review (self.helldivers2)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by robalees to c/[email protected]
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I’m a PS5 player, so I can’t make an impact, but if you did write a negative review (thank you, you made this happen ❤️) please consider taking the time to change it! This was clearly not AH decision and the game deserves an accurate review, it’s easily one of the best games I’ve ever played and definitely the best game as a service!

Edit: woke up to new comments, this post reminded… Lemmy is just the same as Reddit.

Edit2: Christ I need to turn off Lemmy notifications, I’ve left this community and this was a stark reminder for me… don’t engage with a specific game community, just enjoy the fucking game!

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah fuck no. AH can sue Sony for this (and should). But my review stays there for life as a reminder to Sony (and anyone else who tries to pull this shit).

Just because they backed down =/= they did the right thing. They caved to public (and I'm sure legal) pressure. Nothing more. Fuck Sony and fuck changing a review because WE made a company back down.

No no no no no. No.

[–] cosmicrookie 16 points 6 months ago

If steam hadn't started refunding i dont even think that they'd have changed their mind

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Shouldn't the review reflect what the game actually is though?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the game ships with

  1. additional unnecessary activation requirements

  2. a rootkit

Then those factors should affect the reviews. You're not reviewing specific segments of a product, you're sharing your experience start to finish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The recent reviews aren't about the "rootkit"

And while I don't necessarily disagree I do think that reviews should ideally reflect the game as it currently is and not as it were. It's no big deal though.

[–] Maalus 4 points 6 months ago

No, the recent reviews are about a company trying to pull a stunt expecting no backlash. There was backlash. You review the game at the time and how it was then. You don't keep re-reviewing after every week to keep your review up to date.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

That's why steam has a review system based on dates, bad reviews will go away as time goes on if the game goes the right direction, the negative reviews simply serve as a point you can see that they fucked up, like a review time capsule. That's how I see it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Yes. If you want to play “by the rules.” They don’t. Not sure why we should then.

[–] Redredme -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do what you want, i dont care if the reviews are bad or good.

But i just have to react to your "legal" argument.

Legal pressure over an EULA you accepted when you bought the game and got reminded on when you first started the game? The game you didn't refund for over 3 months and probably have 10s if not 100s of hours in? That EULA?

Because contrary to what you seem to think it was in there from the get go. That it didn't work is nice, but doesn't mean anything.

That they created a workaround because it didn't work is nice of them but again, besides the point.

You accepted the EULA. you clearly didn't read it. Who's fault is that?

The only pressure they felt where you guys making a lot of noise. And that was and is great.

But what did Sony learned? What did they really learn?

I'll tell you:

Next time, when they fuck up.... Don't back down. Because if you do back down the negativity stays anyway and you gain nothing.

That's the lessons the corpos have learned. They've learned they can't win. Just accepting the damage is the better strategy. That way you earn something (the ones who did link) at least.

[–] bouh 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I signed nothing. There's no fingerprint anywhere. It might be strange to you, but in some places of the world an EULA is not a binding contract signed in blood that you or your children must fulfil.

When we played for months without the link, when there were no advertisement that the link would be enforced at some point, when Sony faq informed that it was optional, this EULA is mere bullshit.

[–] Redredme 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There is no legal argument. You (or whoever up in this thread) brought that up, not me. I reacted to that. It was never stated anywhere that it was optional. You pulled that out of, I dunno. I strongly suggest you yourself read that faq and dont regurgitate BS you red on discord but didnt bother to confirm yourself.

You accepted the license and the end user agreement the moment you started the game and didn't reimburse the game in the first few hours. No blood, no fingerprint or the life of your firstborn son needed.

Read shit before you click accept. Don't accept what you dont like. That is all.

[–] bouh 1 points 6 months ago

Sony changed its faq during the debacle. May the 3rd it was stated that psn was optional to play on pc. May the 4th it was stated that some games may require it. The game also allowed you to play without psn account, and there was a button programmed in the game to skip the link. There was no information that it was a temporary bypass anywhere.

I don't know why you support Sony on this kind of bullshit. You don't seem very informed about all the problems there were.

You brought the EULA thing. This is the legal argument. And it's plain worthless.