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[–] bisby 62 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Hopefully "we're still trying to learn what's best for PC" isn't some sort of code for "PC players are too whiny and won't bend the knee, this weekend was bad PR that wasnt worth it. we just won't release future games on PC"

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ehhh, I think its probably code for

"We want to try to convince you that this was unintentional and not a calculated business decision that was made with the objective of profit at your expense.

We want you to believe that our multi-billion dollar company did not foresee this even though we have hundreds, if not thousands, of business analysts who work for us globally who definitely suggested this was a possibility in the first 10 minutes of account linking on PC after 4 months being suggested internally.

Also our PR people probably suggested it as a possibility.

Also our legal team probably suggested it as a possibility.

But even though we analyze the industry and the market and the users, and the business, and the case studies, and the marketing, and the games constantly, not stop, day and night, globally; please believe us that we are still trying to learn whats best for PC teehee.

In the future, we will be sure to try to force you into account linking from the beginning with any future release.

Please ignore our transgressions and instead give us money. Goodbye"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

I mean $107 million in Steam sales within 2 months is something worth it for Sony to put up with a whiny playerbase. If there's something I know Sony likes, it's more money. I doubt they will pass up the opportunity to collect money from PC gamers, and digging their heels letting players develop grudges against them were going to hurt Sony's future sales figures all around than what they would have benefited from PSN integration.

[–] gmtom 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know, part of me wants to believe there was actually nothing malicious going on here and when this all went down some guy at Sony was just very surprised this turned out to be a big deal and wa just kinda like "if it matters that much to you we just won't do it I guess, idc."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't even work for Sony and "you need to create a third party account to play our game" isn't something I expected to generate 300k negative reviews in 3 days. There are a lot of games that come with third party accounts and launchers. With all the shit companies like EA, Epic, and Ubisoft force onto their players, I'm genuinely surprised this caused any pushback.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We think the main reason was the amount of countries you couldn't make a PSN account in, locking out a lot of people from playing a game they bought. So honestly, with that in mind, it's probably justified.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah also at one point they claimed this was the plan from day one, but if that was the case why would it have been for sale in countries with no PSN support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Their terms even stated that a psn account would be optional for PC users, right up until this debacle. Then they quietly changed the wording to "some games may require it"

[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, it's been ten thousand years since a multibillion company walked back from simple but bad decision.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I just wonder if they'll leave it at this or find a way to roll it out slowly and silently in some places anyway. I certainly hope they genuinly learned from this.

[–] SpaceNoodle 12 points 7 months ago

They'll just do it in a month without announcing it beforehand.

[–] ben_dover 2 points 7 months ago

they'll just start forcing you in case you want to play cross-platform instead

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you have a goose that lays golden eggs, butchering it for feathers is a poor move.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

After Bungie signed a deal with Activision, Marty O Donald talked about treating the goose right and itll lay golden eggs, and an activision dev said cooked goose is good too.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If they tried it once, they'll try it again.

Some of us have had managers like this: implement something dumb, walk it back, try again every 15 months.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

If they tried it ones, they'll try it twos.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Too late, I probably won't buy this game anymore if they're willing to do shit like this lol

[–] PDFuego 6 points 7 months ago

Damn right. There are approximately infinity other games to play, they had their chance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, this and the completely over-the-top kernel level anticheat rootkit for a PvE game really turned me off.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Welp, this is how you're supposed to deescalate a situation. Not by having a CM slandering a public figure that spoke against this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

That's a good move. Simple and to the point.

[–] cosmicrookie 7 points 7 months ago

If it hadn't been for steam issuing refunds for it, they wouldn't have changed their mind

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Likely they won't make this a requirement..... But will of you want to do crossplay.

[–] inclementimmigrant 2 points 7 months ago

I mean they could and it would actually hurt the PSN players more than the PC players. Of course that's well within their right but would be pretty stupid and we all know how Sony executives are at this point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

sadly i doubt they learned their lesson here, they will just be more careful next time with how they do it.

theres probably money on the table here and those are not the types to leave money on the table.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Major win for the Helldivers players.

[–] cmrn 2 points 7 months ago

PlayStation exclusive items or something incoming then. Very cool Sony thanks for retreating.