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esp if you're one of the devout ones who think they've been really good

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

The American death cult that moved to Venezuelan forest, they definitely didn't go to heaven

[–] Brkdncr 4 points 8 months ago

Religion has crafted their rules to make sure they maintain control. They can’t control dead people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, I'm not religious but I'm excited to die ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

(This is a half serious joke. I have a long history of suicidal feelings and whilst I generally do want to live and am not in any acute risk, I wont lie — many days are a struggle. )

Edit: escaped a backslash so my shrug could have both arms.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Hi if you ever wanna talk to someone or feel like your alone do feel free to dm me . This is not just internet formality i'll be genuinely happy to talk to you .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I'm not likely to take you up on it because talking about things isn't generally helpful for me, but I appreciate the offer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Its all good its that some people feel more suicidal when alone so i thought I'd offer and you don't have to talk to me about your problem we can talk about anything else . But hey i get it and i hope you overcome whatever that is bothering you .

[–] Raglesnarf 4 points 7 months ago

"If I knew there was an after life I'd kill myself right now"

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Correct. That's how you know it isn't a genuine belief, rather than coping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I'm not worried about dying. I believe if I'm here on earth I'm here for a reason and so I'm content to be here until such time as I'm not needed anymore. I enjoy being with my family and having a cup of tea with my wife, as someone here has already mentioned.

I know there are a lot of distinctions in religion but I don't believe being "really good" is an option for humans. I believe being saved from our innate brokenness is the only way anyone could possibly go to heaven. I'm not particularly attracted to religious things or practices.

So yes, I'm excited to go be with God, but I'm not about to take matters into my own hands. It would fly in the face of humbling yourself before the Almighty.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shouldn't athletes expecting to medal just want to skip the competition and go straight to the podium? I mean, that's the reward, right? It is pretty easy to come up with many other analogs where there is a reward/goal that would feel hollow without whatever experience precedes it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

God knows everything, why should you have to prove that you're good?

[–] AnalogyAddict 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Maybe he's not the one you're proving it to.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

For me outside of the natural scariness of it if your not into reincarnation then this is yout only chance on earth and hevon may be good but I'm not done yet getting my own personal kind of high score

[–] NeptuneOrbit 3 points 8 months ago

I remember in Christian fundamentalist circles after 9/11 remarking they might not be ready to die for their faiths like terrorists are. Not the best introspection to be doing, I don't think.

Obviously, even among the truly devout, humans have innate urges to stay alive. Fear of death is often one of the last steps in any faith. After life and fear of death is also one of the bigger preoccupations with many faiths. It's the big unknown.

Everyone has to die and no one is ever truly ready.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 3 points 7 months ago

Yes? Religion is anti-life. I remember being excited about the idea of meeting Jesus one day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I thought this was how you summarize current inaction against climate change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You know not all of us believe in an afterlife, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I agree with you.
Either the person isn't a 'good follower' and isn't going to the good place.
Or they don't actually believe. Because there should be no fear or apprehension about going to the good place

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You think the devout ones think they're good?

Probably the opposite, dude.

The religious aren't as obtuse as Internet randos suddenly given a voice may lead you to believe. Even those who profess reincarnation believe we only get to experience this life and serve our purpose once. May as well make the most of it.

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[–] LEDZeppelin 2 points 8 months ago

They don’t want to die before they make everyone else’s life a living hell

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