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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Oh like with the protests at Kent State?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That was my first reaction. The Republicans want to blame President Biden for killing college students and suppressing free speech. They also want a generation of young adults to be driven away from the Democratic party.

Whatever the Republicans suggest or want, it's all too often to hurt the nation. Eye everything they propose with great suspicion.

[–] Ultragigagigantic 1 points 7 months ago

Whatever the Republicans suggest or want, it’s all too often to hurt the nation. Eye everything they propose with great suspicion.

Republicans are moving to protect First Past The Post voting in the states they control. Do you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer blue states?

[–] TropicalDingdong 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming

We're finally on our own

This summer I hear the drumming

Four dead in Ohio

[–] afraid_of_zombies 9 points 7 months ago

I was thinking the same thing but then I wondered if there were times the guard came into a campus situation and nothing notable happened. Then it occurred to me that the piece of crap suggesting this idea probably wants another Kent state incident

[–] afraid_of_zombies 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Columbia is a private institution, so a lot of first amendment stuff may not apply specifically there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Technically correct and will provide legal cover.

However, it should be noted that historically protests have been encouraged on college campuses such as Columbia, and it’s only just recently that new rules safeguarding said private property have been enforced and selectively applied to those who don’t want to murder Palestinian children.

Also, if we’re being so concerned about rules: after Kent State, Columbia instituted a rule that said police may only be called on protesters if both the administration and the faculty agree to do so. The faculty did not agree to this, which is why so many of them joined the protests yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Then they should reject all federal backed grants and loans.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah funny how it works. Pretty much freedom of speech only applies in your own home and yet my ability to record people is infinite.

[–] stoly 1 points 7 months ago

Yep. They’re shown that they are beholden to their donors.

[–] NeptuneOrbit 19 points 7 months ago

Here's the campus free speech we hear so much about.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That worked really well at that one college one time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, except this time we'd be lucky if it's only four.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The National Guard's primary role isn't really policing. If you have something expand beyond the ability of the police to deal with, okay, but basically it's putting a bunch of people with limited experience in a policing role. It's not the first option to pick unless the police can't deal with it.

“If [New York City Mayor] Eric Adams won’t send the NYPD and [New York Governor] Kathy Hochul won’t send the National Guard, Joe Biden has a duty to take charge and break up these mobs,” Cotton wrote Monday on X, formerly Twitter,

Biden -- as with the federal executive in general -- cannot use the state National Guard for policing like that without state involvement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes which limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. Congress passed the Act as an amendment to an army appropriation bill following the end of Reconstruction and updated it in 1956, 1981 and 2021.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I remembered this where the 101st was sent in to Arkansas:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine

Turns out that made use of the instruction act to bypass Posse Comitatus. So, it's theoretically possible, but I wouldn't recommend him doing so. Especially because it'll further normalize use of the insurrection act, which I don't think is a good idea.

[–] jordanlund 11 points 7 months ago

Because they want him to lose the election...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

On an unrelated note, Joe Biden is so damn old and been in politics for so long, he was less than a year from taking a county position when Kent State happened in 1970, and only 3 years later would be in the Senate.

[–] thechadwick 7 points 7 months ago

First off, we're free speech absolutists and censoring Hunter Biden's dickpics was the crime of the century.

Secondly, anyone who disagrees with our unfathomably narrow worldview should be met with the full might of the state!

Free speech! (but not like that)

[–] TokenBoomer 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If you don’t like it here, move.

[–] Dkarma 3 points 7 months ago

That's not how democracy works.