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[–] just_another_person 160 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Funny thing is, EULA agreements like this have already been shot down in so many cases, it's dumb at this point to try and pull this off. They're just trying to test if anyone will actually pull the trigger on a class action.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're just trying to test if anyone will actually pull the trigger on a class action.

What would be the benefit to such a move?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Thirty-seven cents for every Discord user.

[–] just_another_person 35 points 7 months ago

Groundwork for "the next step", which is expecting zero privacy, and all your messages are sold. Mark me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

But even so they costs the companies involved millions, they wouldn't want to be dragged through one

[–] CertifiedBlackGuy 10 points 7 months ago

Yeah, not sure why folks care

I can sue discord and there's nothing their EULA can do to stop me.

God bless our right to litigate*

*terms and conditions apply: enough money to win in a battle of attrition

[–] [email protected] 109 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

*For US users

EU users are already protected so this doesn't apply to them.

[–] cosmicrookie 59 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Its amazing that a company in the US can simply demand that if you use their services you have to agree not to sue them. Its one of the only reasons anyone could or would sue them!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget the use of mandatory employment arbitration which effectively reduces workers rights by not allowing them a right to legal action.

[–] chiliedogg 10 points 7 months ago

Just tacking on to your comment for any US workers:

Just because you can't sue for your rights doesn't mean nobody can. The government is often perfectly happy to sue on your behalf to recover lost wages or to punish workplace health and safety violations.

[–] cosmicrookie 4 points 7 months ago

wow! and they think people don't want to work!

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago

Common W for the EU

[–] obinice 94 points 7 months ago (4 children)

...in the USA. Doesn't affect us over the pond, but very important for USA users to take note.

[–] CosmicCleric 31 points 7 months ago

…in the USA. Doesn’t affect us over the pond, but very important for USA users to take note.

Really appreciate you guys over there keeping up the pressure on corporations to act ethically/ accordingly.

Here's hoping some of that splash back happens over here.

[–] Gabu 22 points 7 months ago

High five for unalienable rights

[–] BrownianMotion 13 points 7 months ago

Came to say this. Here in the AU you cannot exclude certain things, this being one of them. They can write it all they like into the TOS, but cannot be enforced. There are many examples, but basically no TOS/Warranty/T&C can exclude or explicitly deny any rights you have or laws that protect you.

Similar to warranty here. Many companies like to put "limited liability" and 30 day warranty. But in AU, the warranty has to fall within our laws. (for example Samsung saying warranty on a $5000 TV is 2 years. Well in AU if the tv is that expensive, you have the right to claim warranty on manufacturing failure for at least 5 years.) Many items we buy here, have an "Australia only warranty amendment page" stuffed in the box!

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Companies can do that in US? Sounds like a loophole...

[–] MashedTech 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are many, we're just oblivious because it doesn't affect us in our day to day lives. I'm sure there are loopholes in the EU as well.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Welcome to the corpocracy and the land of the fee.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead, give Discord your address

[–] DacoTaco 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It already has anyway. Ive requested my discord data once and everytime you do anything in discord it explicitly saves and stores the location of where you were when you interacted with discord.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just opt out of discord. It’s a lot easier.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (4 children)

OK, but my raid leader is going to have to shout a lot louder than that if I'm going to hear him from the Netherlands.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah, just get a pair of cups and a really long string.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Who keeps the string under tension on the ocean, huh? /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

That's why each team has a support.

[–] CosmicCleric 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

OK, but my raid leader is going to have to shout a lot louder than that if I’m going to hear him from the Netherlands.

Yeah, market share is a bitch.

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[–] ggppjj 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I attempted to email [email protected] per the ToS and got a bounceback.

[–] aidan 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Also be sure that you send it from the email associated with your account. As per the update on the situation discord gave, in which it announced an extended deadline of 90 days up from 30 days from April 15th or account creation, the contents of the email don't seem to matter much.

I included my account userid and username just to be safe.

[–] ggppjj 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

A bounceback? What does that mean? Anyways I sent three emails to [email protected] but got no replies at all.

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[–] 800XL 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Everyone calm down. They're just going to use it for training AI and if you love tech you love AI. So this is a non-issue.

The trained AI will make their public offering so much more desirable

[–] unreasonabro 16 points 7 months ago (13 children)

unmarked sarcasm whooshes even the mighty users of Lemmy, apparently

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just deleted my account & it solved all my discord problems.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (5 children)

It’s cute you think deleting your account means they’ve removed your user and information from their servers.

[–] cosmicrookie 5 points 7 months ago

Id assume one could have them do that if they lived in EU

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I deleted my Discord account 2 days ago, and I'm very happy with that choice. Conversations / Any XMPP client is significantly better than Discord in terms of direct messaging and small groups for friends. Some of my friends haven't switched to Conversations yet, but at that point it is their choice to not speak with me outside of work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm still sticking with IRC.

You'll all be back... Some day

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