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[–] AFKBRBChocolate 142 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your morning will be going worse if you click that link.

[–] Coldgoron 60 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Haven’t clicked any link yet but it could be possible phishing. Maybe log into my legit discover account first.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 61 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

It is for sure phishing. Discover isn't going to send you an email like that. Even loading the graphics was a bad idea.

Edit: apparently I stand corrected. I've gotten security alerts from my credit card companies before, but never with a link like that, and never saying something like "dark web." Sorry to hear it

[–] mipadaitu 89 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's not "for sure phishing" Discover does send emails like that. They have a service where they scan the internet for your personal information, and they sell you credit monitoring, and other stuff to reduce the impact.

Here's a screenshot of part of their website for this monitoring.

Of course it's ALWAYS a good idea to go to the website, and never click a link on an email from your financial institution, but I'm like 80% sure that this is a legit email.

Also, your SSN and other financial details have likely been compromised dozens of times, so just having your SSN floating around out there isn't surprising. It's a fault in the system for using an unsecured SSN as an identify instead of what it was initially used for.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It’s a fault in the system for using an unsecured SSN as an identify instead of what it was initially used for.

It is alao the fault of the government for not putting a halt to and punishing those corporations who decided to hijack SSNs and treat them as some kind of secret code.

[–] teft 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They'd have to start with the army. We used our social on everything as an identifier while I was in. I'd honestly be more surprised if my SSN wasn't compromised.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

When i was in college in the 90s they used socials when they posted test scores.

One thing I noticed was that since it was a state college 90% of them started with the same 3 numbers because of how they issued SSNs.

[–] franzfurdinand 3 points 7 months ago

I cannot imagine the shit fit that people would throw if we tried to implement a secure national identity number. Even the SSN got a lot of backlash for being "the mark of the beast", and that was introduced a little under a hundred years ago.

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[–] mipadaitu 7 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Oh great, I clicked too many of their links on their website and now I'm getting targeted ads for their "super special identity protection"

[–] Ginger666 8 points 7 months ago

Imaging getting ads

[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4 4 points 7 months ago

What is ads

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate 3 points 7 months ago

Okay, I made an edit. Like I said there, the alerts I've gotten have never had links for the reasons you mentioned - they say things like "call the number on the back of your card."

[–] Coldgoron 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Sadly its legit...

Edit: It was the at&t data breach

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 3 points 7 months ago

That sucks. I made an edit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

why does a phone company need your social security?

[–] Coldgoron 3 points 7 months ago

I think I was with their service once a long time ago and I did an application to see if I could get a phone plus service package. This probably got my social in the process for credit score reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
  1. They'll give you a $1000 phone under the guarantee of a 2-year contract. That can be considered a type of loan and they can repo the phone if you stop paying.
  2. If you stop paying monthly bills, they can only really force you to pay the balance if they have your SSN and can affect your credit score.

I'm not endorsing the practice of ruining people's chances of buying a home over unpaid phone bills, but it's a pretty good deal from AT&T's perspective.

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[–] XeroxCool 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Discover offers monitoring. How are you so sure it's phishing? An abundance of caution and logging in directly is certainly a safe route to verify, but convincing OP this is phishing and that the graphics are risky is unnecessarily alarming

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[–] AlphaAutist 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure? Discover does have free identity monitoring and I get emails every month saying whether they found anything or not. I have never gotten an email saying they found my ssn though so can’t say for sure if this is legit. Either way I would still check through the app or their website without opening the link.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 2 points 7 months ago

I made an edit - weird that their alert has a link.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

They absolutely do send emails like this. They've got a monitoring service if you have a credit card with them to check for data breaches, and most credit cards and even banks I've seen do the same. I just got my monthly monitoring update email this morning from Discover, thankfully telling me they didn't find anything.

[–] n1ck_n4m3 69 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, let's be real -- 50% of the USA's SSN is on a dark web site due to the Equifax breach.

Freeze your credit, it's the only way to protect yourself. All of the ID protection services are just overpriced insurance and don't actually prevent ID theft.

[–] vanontom 23 points 7 months ago

Yes. Just FYI: All three have free "freeze" option, hidden somewhere (probably thanks to federal law). They also have very similar paid option, which they heavily advertise; That's not the one. They do all require free accounts, but probably worth it to be able to freeze/unfreeze instantly online.

I just received "dark web" alert about SSN, phone, name, and email... that I only used at AT&T many years ago. So AT&T has definitely leaked our data as well. Add 'em to the list...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Its probably closer to 80% or higher if you add in other breaches

[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah, the Shared Security Number...

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Equifax leak. Half of Americans' SSNs are on the dark web.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yep, I'm in the unlucky half. It's good practice anyway, but now I keep my credit frozen at all three credit bureaus unless I'm submitting an application. Doesn't stop all fraud, but stops most of the kind that can fuck up my credit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You may also want to freeze Lexis Nexis and Innovis as well - they buy and sell your data as well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Fuck, I've never even heard of those. This whole system is garbage, how am I supposed to know how to protect myself from fraud when these companies just somehow automatically have authority to let thieves steal my identity? At the very least we should have a centralized government agency that you can issue a blanket freeze with. Better would be an actual proper ID system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

That's only from one breach. I'd wager that at least 75% of our SSNs are out there since this is constantly happening.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it’s not like an SSN is secure at all. Add 1 to your SSN and that’s most likely a completely valid number for someone else

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The dark web site that has your SSN: first.100,000,000.digits.of.pi.txt - Torrent Download

[–] SendMePhotos 21 points 7 months ago

I found that my ssn was leaked because I got multiple attempts to take put credit loans. Incidentally, my middle initial is not I, but l. Joke's on them. Every time I see the incorrect middle initial, it's an easy way to tell.

Needless to say, my stuff has been locked for years and only unlocked when I need to take out a loan or open a new account which is extremely rare.

[–] XeroxCool 21 points 7 months ago

Your info was probably already out there, somewhere. It's most likely in a massive list with thousands of others. It's still not great, but you're not being targeted. This is why it's important to freeze your credit with each bureau.

Just another reminder that using your SSN for ID verification purposes and acting like it's a secret code only you could ever know is a dumb fucking system. Even the "verify with your last 4 digits" is a dumb fucking system. If you have a date of birth and a decent idea of birthplace, you can take a pretty good guess about the first 5 digits because they're sequential from known blocks. It wasn't until about 20 years ago that the government randomized the first 5 to stop that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Well get a lamp then, discover. Sheesh.

[–] wreckedcarzz 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This amuses me that it's talking about a "Dark Web site" while itself is a dark website.

Spiderman pointing at Spiderman meme

[–] RizzRustbolt 13 points 7 months ago

By "found" they mean, "accidentally sold to".

[–] dohpaz42 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Eh, it’s probably been on the dark web for a while now given how frequent and massive data leaks have become. Worry more about unauthorized use/access to your credit and/or identity.

  1. Place freezes on your credit for Experian, TransUnion, and Equifax (it’s free)
  2. Lock any credit cards you don’t use regularly
  3. Pull your credit reports from each agency (you get one a year for free) and verify activity
  4. Enable balance notifications for your credit cards and bank accounts (eg, high transaction amount = $0.00 will alert you to every purchase made)
  5. Opt out of Data Brokers like LexusNexus
  6. Don’t use the same password for multiple websites. If you don’t already, use a password manager like KeePass and let it generate new passwords for you

It’s all about the diligence these days. Your morning should be fine. The worst thing you can receive is a high transaction amount alert you didn’t authorize. But card companies and banks have gotten good about dealing with those when they happen.

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[–] assassinatedbyCIA 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But my nuclear attack sub should be hidden in the depths off the gulf of guinea. How did it end up on the dark net?

[–] SkybreakerEngineer 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Someone published all the hull numbers on Wikipedia

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I would be surprised if anyone's SSN isn't on a dark web site. Being combined with other personal data is a problem, although the biggest problem is that credit companies treat easily found information as secret and let criminals easily impersonate people by knowing those few easily shared pieces of information without some kind of real security or easy way for people to contest fraud.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not surprising. I am thinking about creating a foss self hosted scrapper that detects breaches

I probably won't though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

First time?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

First time?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It's not great but it's not really world ending. About a year ago someone filed for unemployment in bot my wife's name and my name. Which came as a shock to my employer as I was was still happily at work. I work for a small mom-n-pop store, my wife works at a mega corporation. She caries insurance etc and one of her companies providers had a leak of ssn and other personal information. We both locked our credit and signed up for a protection pin for filing taxes. We reported to the local unemployment office that they were fraudulent claims. I look back and realized we probably should have locked our credit long ago and got tax pins as well, just for the security side of things.

The funny thing is my employer brought it to my attention. My wife's employer didn't even notice and was getting ready to pay the claim even tho she was still working there as the system is all automated in her company. Eventually it came out about the leak and they are providing 5 years of credit monitoring for free.

[–] johannesvanderwhales 2 points 7 months ago

I get these notices like every other month, it's why I have credit monitoring.

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