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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/13932170

This will have been drawn from the work of Erin Reed Though its worth noting her only firm, DO NOT TRAVEL, so far, is florida. Though the rest are of course still dangerous.

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[–] andros_rex 78 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I really wish my friends and family would understand this. This is something that I have to worry about, all of the time. It causes me constant and immense stress.

“I would not be welcome here if they knew.” - this is what I have to be aware of, all of the time. I do volunteer work and often drive out to rural areas - stopping at gas stations where they’d leer at me if I wore a mask inside 2 years ago… - am I safe if I get pulled over?

I’ve sat at workplace trainings and heard the things that they think about people like me - debating on if there’s a way that I can say something that won’t call attention to myself. I turn on the news or scroll through Facebook and see an endless stream of debates on whether or not I should exist.

All I want is to inject myself with testosterone (which my insurance does not pay for). I want my drivers license to say M. I wanted, and paid for, a mastectomy. Testosterone makes me strong enough to carry folding tables for homeless shelters. It helps me turn my anger into energy. It helps me exist.

I don’t understand why that bothers people so much. No one gave a shit ten years ago. My Pentecostal family were happy to call me their son. Trans people are just a convenient boogey man as part of a long term backlash strategy against gay and women’s rights.

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[–] marito 66 points 4 months ago

I may not be trans, but I'm brown, this helps too.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

lucky, those are all the best places! ❤️

[–] puppy 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As if having good morals leads to a pleasant living environment.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

as someone who is temporarily stuck in FL and moving back to NYC soon, i assure you: even if the laws were friendlier here, this place would still be a hellhole.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I’m surprised Arizona made the cut.

[–] Psythik 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As someone who lives there, I'm not. We're an extremely purple state.

[–] gaylord_fartmaster 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, they'll shoot you as you crawl down a hotel hallway on your hands and knees no matter who you are.

[–] Maggoty 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah but that's a problem in every state.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, especially since I know trans teachers who are leaving the state due to the environment in public education.

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[–] Maggoty 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm really proud of AZ. Nobody ever thought about us but we could feel the tide turning for years. Then in 2020 Trump got a surprise. But it wasn't a surprise to anyone in the state.

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[–] Fades 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Arizona in 2024 is very different. Blue leadership has led to things like actually holding people accountable for false electors, may be the 4th state to open up election interference case now that the GOP is out of the picture in terms of leadership.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/signing-arizona-attorney-generals-2020-election-probe/story?id=108864060

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

Let's be honest: Is there anything worth visiting in those missing states, anyway? Sure, Disney World is in Florida, but have you ever been to Florida? It sucks. Hot and humid as shit. Rains every single day at about 5pm. Gators and Floridians everywhere... Even the magic of Disney doesn't outweigh all that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Cajun food is great. Basically, southern food in general is good. You can't get boiled peanuts up north. Besides food? Not really.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Minnesota State fair. Boiled peanuts were added in 2022.

Next?

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[–] Bye 10 points 4 months ago

Wyoming and Montana have absolutely amazing mountains. I say that as someone who lives in the third best mountains state. They have mountains as good as ours but without as many people in them.

Alaska is simply amazing, one of the best places I’ve ever been in the summer. I can’t wait to go again.

Otherwise nah fuck that shit

[–] force 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Atlanta has cool stuff like conventions. Savannah's city center part is a nice place. Ohio has some really big events. I can't think of any other reasons to go

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Friends and Family?

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[–] Fades 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All LGBT are safe and welcomed in Oregon and Massachusetts, my two home states in my life :)

I love living in blue states that value people and their rights

[–] abaddon 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, not all of our states are safe. While the population centers are mostly ok, there are plenty of places that are not safe. I had an acquaintance (gay) describe Eastern Washington as "fine as long as I don't act too gay".

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[–] Buffaloaf 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's much more nuanced than that, different parts of some states act very differently from the rest.

Take Colorado for example: the same state that was the first (along with Washington) to legalize recreational weed, but it's also where Boebert came from.

[–] xenoclast 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this map would have much smaller areas. If you broke it down into safe counties or something

[–] Buffaloaf 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Idk, it would just look different. There are also trans friendly places within the omitted states (e.g. Austin, Texas)

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[–] madnness 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Certainly as important as the green book!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

I only learned about this maybe a year ago, so I'm linking a source, in case anyone else missed this horrific part of history.

[–] profdc9 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

People may not like the weather in Chicago, but it's not that bad, the summers are generally pleasant, winters are tolerable if you dress appropriately, we have a nice lake nearby, four seasons, and the people here are sane, practical midwesterners. Why are people going to Arizona with decreasing available water, where the Republicans want to pass hunting migrants for sport ( https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/arizona-bill-shoot-kill-migrants-property-trespass-border-rcna141147 ) if they cross your property? Why are they going to build tens of billions of dollars of semiconductor fabs in Phoenix ( https://www.ft.com/content/d0fe3dda-7ea4-4d37-9564-71a129b9002f ) in a place with declining water? Are the tax breaks really worth it?

[–] Maggoty 8 points 4 months ago

The Arizona GOP is batshit insane and they're slowly losing their grip on the state because of it. The only reason Sinema was there to block the federal minimum wage law was because she ran a very progressive campaign. (And the state held a grudge so hard she's not even trying for another term) Katie Hobbs is governor now and Adrian Fontes is the SoS. They aren't going to swing back anytime soon and those insane bills are not going to make it past the governor's veto.

That said, just like anywhere in the west, be aware that much of the rural area is fueling that radical GOP branch. But Phoenix metro area, Tucson metro area, Flagstaff, Camp Verde, Winslow, Prescott, and Williams were fine when I live there ~5 years ago. Except Sedona. Everyone wants to go to Sedona to see the red rocks. You will be seeing them from your car in the eternal traffic jam that is Sedona. Go to the Grand Canyon instead, it's better anyways.

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[–] xpinchx 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

I just watched a video about Utah and apparently Mormons are pretty tolerant of just about everyone and even though it's a red state they're pretty progressive on social issues.

Take with a grain of salt, my source is a YouTube video.

Edit: I was misinformed lmao

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago

they're really not, slc has a pretty progressive community but it's in direct opposition to the mormons. they're officially accepting of gay people, but as long as they don't do anything gay. they aren't ok with trans people who transition at all.

utah also recently passed bathroom laws for all govt controlled buildings and schools and there are ones for colleges in the works.

generally mormons will be nice and accepting if they think they can convert you, but that's about as far as it goes

https://www.advocate.com/religion/2018/10/08/mormon-leader-lgbtq-advocacy-comes-satan https://www.advocate.com/religion/2019/10/03/mormon-leader-gender-assigned-birth-eternal

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2024/01/30/utah-transgender-bathroom-ban-goes/

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/transgender/understanding?lang=eng

“Church leaders counsel against elective medical or surgical intervention for the purpose of attempting to transition to the opposite gender of a person’s birth sex (“sex reassignment”). Leaders advise that taking these actions will be cause for Church membership restrictions.

Leaders also counsel against social transitioning. A social transition includes changing dress or grooming, or changing a name or pronouns, to present oneself as other than his or her birth sex. Leaders advise that those who socially transition will experience some Church membership restrictions for the duration of this transition.

This reminds me very much of the "hate the sin, not the sinner" that never actually happened.

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/official-statement/same-gender-attraction

Let us be clear: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that ‘the experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is.

Mormons are not at all tolerant. Just because they aren't calling for the death of LGBT people, and are still willing to take their tithes, doesn't make them tolerant.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, no, no, no, no. I moved to Utah five years ago and this is absolutely not the case and I'm not even LGBTQ. A couple of vignettes:

Exhibit A.

Exhibit B: I had a workplace procure a costume for me. They didn't like my lack of Mormon Jesus. This was a prominent finance firm in SLC.

[–] aidan 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I too watched that Half as Interesting/Wendover productions video, that's not what it said. In fact he explicitly said that's not what he's saying.

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[–] radicalautonomy 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lmao, good one. 🤣 The Mormons contributed over three-quarters of the funding to get Prop 8 passed in California.

https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/10/the-mormon-money-behind-proposition-8/209748/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Yea this may be the case for some mormons, maybe, but they as a whole are not very tolerant at all. We had a mormon in our school who was very vocal about his dislike about a couple where one was trans. He pretended to be a nice guy, but his views were gross when they came bubbling to the surface.

I dont buy that mormons are a tolerant group for a second.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Mormons tend to be nice ... to your face. As soon as you leave they're likely to act like you'd expect followers of an extremely socially conservative, regressive, patriarchal religion would.

And I'm not saying all Mormons are like that -- there are good people that are mormons, but it's in spite of what the church teaches about gender, sexuality, and sin.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You got gaslit

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/The-Trevor-Project-2022-National-Survey-on-LGBTQ-Youth-Mental-Health-by-State-Utah.pdf

Utah teen lgbtqia+ suicide rate is very high. I've got a friend who is a therapist out there and i do not envy them. The Mormon church tries to say that they love and accept everyone but if you push them they will clarify they can love someone but they hate the sin. Ask yourself, how can you love someone when you can't accept a fundamental part of them? If you practice your gayness/etc you will be treated differently by Mormon church standards. You will lose out on church privileges and be ostracized.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm in NC and I feel pretty safe

[–] profdc9 16 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Certain cities like Chapel Hill or Durham on the piedmont are quite tolerant. But go into the coastal area and foothills and you might need to be careful.

[–] Fades 13 points 4 months ago

Exactly, this is many states, like TN. Some of the southern parts of TN are insanely racist (like Polk County). Went to a halloween party in that area once when I i was in uni (will never go back to that fuckin state willingly) and I brought two black dudes who were my best buds and shit popped off pretty quick simply because black people had the nerve to show up.

Fucking gross.

[–] macarthur_park 8 points 4 months ago

God forbid they elect Mark Robinson as governor, then you have state level oppression again.

At an event in Greenville, Robinson said people who “are confused” about their gender should “find a corner outside somewhere to go” to the bathroom.

I lived in Chapel Hill during the 2016 election. The one silver lining to that Election Day was voting Pat McCrory out of office after his own bathroom bill nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can somebody give me a better explanation of how NH keeps ending up red on these maps? As a trans person who's lived in both NH and VT for very large parts of my life, I've found that they're really, really similar when it comes to trans rights. Hell, NH is one of the few states to cover laser hair removal and electrolysis for facial hair under medicaid for trans people. Vermont doesn't even cover that and has repeatedly shot down any attempts to add it.
Also even though both states cover breast augmentation for trans people, Vermont refuses to cover it for me because I have a deformity and require a slightly different procedure which they go out of their way to explicitly exclude, whereas in NH that procedure is explicitly also covered.

I'm assuming there's something deeper and more sinister going on in NH if it's red even despite that. I wouldn't doubt it tbh. I can't move back there because they intentionally illegally shut off people's disability benefits hoping they just won't bother to appeal the decision, so I'm not blind to how awful the state can be.

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[–] GraniteM 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] TK420 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

NH is a “Live free or die” kind of state….dying seems to be what they are doing these days because they sure as fuck are not living free….

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[–] ZeffSyde 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Apparently, Utah can be added to this. Though they vote overwhelmingly Republican they are surprisingly supportive of lgbtq rights , at least according to a video I saw yesterday.

I think it was called Why is Utah Weird? I think Bobbybroccoli did it.

Anyone from Utah with a different experience, please correct me so I don't spread any more disinformation.

Edit: Just read down about 30 comments and apparently I was gaslit by a YouTube video. Whoduhthunk?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

waves from behind enemy lines hiiii

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