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[-] Got_Bent 243 points 2 months ago

Their recruiting offices were set up directly across the street from my daughter's high school right next to the Burger King where all the seniors went to lunch.

Shady as fuck

[-] WhatAmLemmy 188 points 2 months ago

They also exclusively target lower to middle class areas because rich people have options, and the capitalist oligarchy love that poverty to cannon fodder pipeline.

[-] Linkerbaan 84 points 2 months ago

Which is conveniently the real reason they are trying to ban abortion. Because poor kids without options are easy to recruit as cannon fodder

[-] SkippingRelax 42 points 2 months ago

I think you give pro choice and religious nuts too much credit.

[-] theangryseal 40 points 2 months ago

I would imagine that behind closed doors, men in positions of power have had conversations about the potential recruits the military is losing with easy access to abortion, but I agree with you.

For the most part there is no grand conspiracy, just passionate nuts who believe they’re going to live forever who found a shortcut to what they imagine is God’s approval. Like that nut who climbs buildings to raise awareness or whatever it is he’s doing. They believe when they die, they’ll wake up on a cloud and hear “Jesus Loves the Little Children” playing in the background. Their lord will walk up to them and embrace them, tell them what a good job they did shouting about saving babies as he pets their hair.

I grew up in that world. So glad I don’t still live in it.

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[-] random9 169 points 2 months ago

I went to highschool and university in the US - I was lucky that I got a scholarship and that covered pretty much all my tuition costs.

But I had a friend, one year older than me, who joined and served in the US army for something like 2 years just so he could get his university costs covered and to save some money for living expenses.

It may not be intentional, but the high cost of higher education is an excellent recruiting tool for the US military.

[-] [email protected] 88 points 2 months ago

The poverty draft is very real. Usually it's for enlisted who have no other prospects. But I was in that same boat in college. 2 years in ROTC before something made me realize I was not going to enjoy military life and dropped it.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago

I went to school in a dirt poor place. Like half of my graduating class joined the military. Recruiters were in the halls like every week. Yeah, it's absolutely intentional.

[-] LazaroFilm 37 points 2 months ago

It may not be intentional

Nothing is unintentional.

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[-] [email protected] 121 points 2 months ago

It's creepy that they're allowed to text children without their express consent. Assuming that this is a real text exchange and that OOP didn't wilfully give the recruiter their number earlier.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago

When I was a senior in high school back in the 2000's I got multiple cold calls from Army recruiters. I have no doubt that they've moved on to texting, and that this is legitimate.

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[-] Son_of_dad 106 points 2 months ago

Seeing the army recruitment at comic Con always skeeves me out. I see them talking to 16-17 year old socially awkward kids who don't know any better. Really predatory.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife 31 points 2 months ago

Really predatory.

It's interesting that the US has not signed the international agreement against child (<18 yo) soldiers - solely so that the US armed forces can sign 17 yo recruits.

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[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife 102 points 2 months ago

I still fondly remember my friend Bob Niederider from high school in the '80s. One day an Army recruiter came to talk to our history class, and at the end he asked if anybody had any questions. Bob raised his hand and said "yeah I have a question: does napalm still stick to kids?" I didn't really appreciate this at the time - and the recruiter certainly didn't, either.

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[-] [email protected] 85 points 2 months ago

Army recruiters in your school that somehow use social media to contact you?

Institutionalised creepiness.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago

Wait until you see "career day" at school.

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[-] capital 63 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I’ll go against the grain here.

I joined not long after high school because I wasn’t gonna be able to pay for college, not that I was a good student anyway.

Spent most of my 4 year Air Force enlistment in the UK doing what I wanted - sysad, basically. Never deployed.

Got out and worked for increasingly higher pay and now I make $250k+ without a college degree.

[-] FlyingSquid 33 points 2 months ago

I joined not long after high school because I wasn’t gonna be able to pay for college, not that I was a good student anyway.

Should you not be pissed off that this was one of the very few options you had in order to have a chance at success later in life because of your economic situation rather than touting this as a good idea?

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[-] hakunawazo 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

^^ Found the lemmy air force recruiter

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[-] FlyingSquid 63 points 2 months ago

I wasn't going to join anyway, but the military recruiter who came to my school in the 90s ensured I wouldn't enlist.

He ended literally ended every phrase or clause with "'n stuff." And I do mean literally. Every phrase or clause.

It went like this:

"If you wanna join the army 'n stuff, you gotta get fit 'n stuff because basic training ain't easy 'n stuff but if you start getting fit now, you'll do fine 'n stuff."

For 45 fucking minutes.

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[-] Copythis 61 points 2 months ago

I remember when the Xbox 360 came out, I was in high school.

The army brought a Ford Excursion that looked fresh off the Pimp my Ride show, with a huge flat screen that flipped down out of the back, 4 huge subs, and the current football game playing.

You could only play the Xbox if you signed up.

[-] experbia 32 points 2 months ago

School recruiters are basically practicing pedophiles. They disgust me. They:

  • hunt for vulnerable children, who might be more prone to complying due to trauma or disability or even just recent social happenings or baseline teenage angst
  • try to talk to them one on one so adults won't interfere
  • entice them with treats or games or other such things
  • try to convince the kids to agree to do something they don't yet understand

The SOP of a school recruiter and that of a practicing pedophile are so similar that I wonder how many of the latter are created after someone has been the prior simply due to how the job demands you to operate and consider the kids as just resources... or how often the prior becomes a career path for the latter simply to justifiably increase their access to children.

Back in the late 2000s, I got pulled in to the office in high school because I told the recruiter visiting the school that he was a massive piece of shit and needed to stay away from me and my friends if he knew what was good for him. I said this after he sat down near me and, idk, tried to bond? By calling my female friend that left "a real hottie" and tried poorly to insinuate I could probably seal the deal if I was a hot army boy. Baseline revolting statement from an adult to a child for one, I'm gay for two, she was lesbian for three... so I said what I said and apparently my words were sufficiently hurtful that he ran to the admin to cry about it and I got told off because that kind of language and sentiment is unacceptable towards someone "just doing their job" at the school. They found no issue at the time with his ingratiation technique, though I never saw him again.

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[-] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago

I remember mowing the lawn at home in the early 2000s when an Army recruiter pulled up and tried to get me to sign up. We lived in a cul-de-sac, so he was clearly there for me. I was 17 at the time.

The older I get, the more creeped out I am that they showed up unsolicited and talked to me without one of my parents present.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends 33 points 2 months ago

I remember a recruiter coming up to me, trying to shame me.

"Don't you love your country?!" He shouted. This was after 9/11 too, and being brown, I didn't say what I wanted to say because i was 17 and was absolutely sure this guy would beat me up.

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[-] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago

Sadly all the branches have one at the schools. I made the mistake of taking the ASVAB test in high school to get out of class, scored well and was hounded by all of these guys. The marine recruiter showed up at my house carrying a CRT TV/VHS combo to try and convince me to join lol

[-] NoSpiritAnimal 31 points 2 months ago

Marine got a workout that day

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[-] breakcore 54 points 2 months ago

It was required in my school to take the ASVAB. If we missed we'd face repercussions. I purposely answered questions wrong-- not all of them because it would look too obvious, but I apparently still scored high enough that they still considered me. I got my results in class, we had someone from the military come speak with us and try to get us to sign up, and even text messages.

Shit was so fucking annoying.

I asked a friend of mine from where I used to live if she had to take it and she asked me what the fuck I was talking about.

I mean, shit, I guess when you live in a state that is known for having awful levels of education they figure they can shove you in the military instead.

...Or football.

[-] wolfpack86 29 points 2 months ago

What score do you think is the cutoff to not be called?

My guess is they call you regardless of score and use the score to decide how to make the sell. They need all levels of people to stand in front of bullets and maintain a base/outpost.

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago

War is lame. It's just a bunch of people killing each other while the real people in power sit in comfy chairs watching it all unfold. Can we just all get along?

Oh wait, you have oil? Oh, um, he hit me first. 💥🔫⚔️🛢️💯

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[-] Maggoty 51 points 2 months ago

Yup. Although it's not generally 1 per school. More like 1 per 10 schools. No different than job recruiters for any other field.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

well there's one difference at least

[-] [email protected] 85 points 2 months ago

"How do you feel about killing innocent children in foreign countries?"

"Eh... I'm fine with that."

"Great! Welcome to Nestle!"

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's pretty fucked, honestly. They regularly posted up in the lunchroom at my school, recruiting students with promises of scholarships.

We didn't get text messages like this, but I'm not surprised to see it. I do wonder how they get the numbers though. Is it just data broker bullshit or is the school system selling out their own students' information?

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[-] BilboBargains 36 points 2 months ago

Hi I'm SSG Douchenozzle, ever had a nightmare that you can't wake up from? With PTSD we can make that your reality.

[-] TheControlled 34 points 2 months ago

Wait till OP hears about mandatory service in other countries.

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[-] Chocrates 32 points 2 months ago

We had a recruiter 20 years ago. The kids are smarter these days tho it seems.

[-] hglman 29 points 2 months ago

Wait till you learn about places with conscription.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Imma be real with you, every country that has a military recruits from schools. Lots of countries don't even ask, they just make you go in anyway. America isn't an oddity at this.

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[-] bi_tux 27 points 2 months ago

I've got forced military service, but my country ain't at war, so I've just gotta work 6 months in shitty jobs, that are necessary for society for free. Oh, and your free time in the barracks consists of drinking beer, playing cards and smoking

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

When I was in high school, during the last 3 months of the school year ... I forget if they were the Army or the Marines, but they had a table with a display and two guys in the hallway right outside the cafeteria.

That waa back when the coolest phone you could have was a Motorola Razr and computers still had mice with rubber balls instead of lasers... MySpace era. So they just set up in the most highly foot trafficked area of the school.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

how did SSG CarbonizedMiddleEasternToddler even get this kid's number? Like, are schools colluding with recruiters to just ship underperforming kids off to die?

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends 25 points 2 months ago

My college sold me out. (Or got hacked or something).

They misspelled my middle name and suddenly, I got bank offers and all sorts of weird shit with that misspelling. I'm actually thankful they misspelled it because it helped me pinpoint my shitty college as the culprit.

I won't be surprised high schools do it too. A little "oops I didn't know" deniability and "fuck those kids" adult mentality.

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[-] devnull406 24 points 2 months ago

My child's high school sent a letter home asking for permission to share his information and transcripts with military recruiters.

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[-] shyguyblue 24 points 2 months ago

When i was in high school 2003, my physics class devoted an entire period to a military recruiter... Sufficed to say, only the redneck kids were interested.

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