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Property mgmt company changed without our input
New company sent an intro email
This came a few days later. The entire email is like this with 11 ads in it.
Get in the fucking sea
Slight Correction: Your landlord sold your personal information to a company that sends you ads.
It's not much different, but this feels just a little bit worse.
I used to take the weekly mailer coupons, the ones printed on newsprint, fold them up, & put them in the no postage necessary envelopes that came with credit card offers & what not. Seal em up & send them along.
I wish there was a way to do something similar with junk emails…
You can opt out of credit card offers. https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/prescreened-credit-insurance-offers
Is this even legal, or is there a tiny ‘We can sell any info about you and possibly your location as well because you are not rich enough to afford a house lmao’ on the paperwork we are supposed to sign?
I'd bet they had it hidden in the lease /privacy agreement
Before I got into my current lease I went over the whole thing, and the landlord was actually good enough to amend some things I did not like.
I would never, ever consent to having my data sold, especially by someone taking 20-50% of monthly income. They're almost taking you for a ride at that point!
Can one sell their landlords info I wonder?
Sure! But I don't think they are interested in buying one address at a time, so find a few hundred other assholes in your life and see how it goes.
Can we just stop? I think we've gone too far. I say we take like a week or two, where no one's allowed to sell or buy anything. Just taking a breather, and realizing how exhausting all of this is.
Agreed, a week with no work, no packages, no advertisements, and corporations shutting their mouths for 7 days straight would be glorious. Perhaps more people will understand that the world doesn't need to be how it currently is.
Hey now, lets not exaggerate and hyperbolize. There are types of non-ad data in this message. "Hello!" isn't an ad. Neither are the links for "Pay Rent" or "Request Maintenance". By pixel count that has to be at least 3% of the message!
Also, I'm sure there's a tracking pixel somewhere, probably embedded in the CDNs for those images so that they can know when and where you opened this message, what type of device your on, etc. That's creepy tracking data not advertising! (yet)
Kids these days, never happy with anything.
then I'll reduce my tip by 3%! they're only gonna get 22% tip on my $5000/month for my 1 bed 0 bath I share with 9 other people
Hey shush, you're gonna get us evicted, only 3 of us are on the lease!
Scour the internet for newsletter signups and enter your landlords email
Or just use mailbait.info
The place I moved out of did the same. Switched to a "Better payment system" where you can only pay through an online portal and requiring direct payments by tying your bank account to their system (no debit cards or credit cards), or MAIL a check to their offices in another state.
Then the email ads. From opening a credit card to discounts on incense.
This shit is bad.
or MAIL a check to their offices in another state.
Most bill-pay systems that banks run do this for you. eg, I have my HOA in my bill-pay. My bank sends a physical check every quarter since my HOA doesn't have an electronic method available.
100%. My credit union does this and its been super helpful when I need to send checks out. Paid lawncare, cleaners, and other misc bills where they take only cash or check.
That's actually pretty cool of a bank to do that!
Can we ask the real questions here? Like, why is that person wheelbarrowing those kids away and where did he dump them?
No one knows! That’s what happens when you click the maintenance request link.
Some say the kids are building new apartments for the new ownership. Others think the kids go into the lasagna served at the holiday tenant gathering.
That's actually pretty convenient; my old landlord always charged a fee for large furniture/appliance/child removal.
You badly need an email client that doesn't automatically load pictures
My landlord is a multimillion dollar faceless company that sends me offers for a reduction on rent if I refer someone else. They have partnerships with other giant businesses and send me coupons for other companies. They push tenants towards a particular ISP. They amass personal data and seem to share it.
They want to make it seem like added value, but as a tenant, it feels like you're just another consumer to be sold something. They send me so much spam...
This hell we built is exhausting
Are all the ads for scuzzy, borderline scam products? That company in the screenshot is pretty much a gateway drug to homeopathy and vaccine denialism.
Other adds included scrub daddy and racetrac
like, why the fuck do I need an ad for a gas station?
Actually, no, at second glance, these fucks appear to be doing it intentionally. I missed the pay rent link.
My employer only sends important notices such as changes to medical benefits and how you access them; via the same email they spam me with ads, coupons, random imternal job offers from across the country....
I had blocked it after 13 spam emails, not knowing its also the official channel for important shit as well.
Property mgmt company changed without our input
You think you deserve input on what property manager your landlord chooses to run their property? Know your place, peasant.
No, for real. It's ridiculous to think you'd have any input on that.
Mark the spam as spam.
Report it to spamcop.net and/or dnsbl.info so they actually get thrown into email blacklists.
I unsubscribed but there was no granular options - it's just in or out, so hopefully they can still send me actual emails / useful BACN outside of marketing spam
Unsubscribing is the polite option, but this obviously isn't what you signed up for. I wouldn't unsubscribe, just mark as spam. If enough people do and they start having deliverability issues of important emails, maybe they'll change their ways... but probably they won't.
edit: They're probably not sophisticated enough to have separate lists, so you may have unsubscribed from everything, at least if you mark as spam you can find their important emails in your junk folder.
Unsubscribes can also affect deliverability. If they're using one of the major services like Sendgrid, Mailchimp, etc. for their marketing emails, those services keep track of unsubscribes along with the reason, and flag customers that have an unusually high number of people unsubscribing, especially if you select the "I never subscribed to this list" option when unsubscribing.
I like how they say they're "exclusive" offers, when in reality it's whatever offers they could find that pay the highest commission.
We’ve carefully curated this pile of junk mail for you
Speaking of carefully curated junk mail, I feel like I'm the only person that actually uses both Valpak coupons and the coupons on the back of supermarket receipts. There's good coupons for local businesses in there!
To be fair, it is actually a valuable economic service to predict which ads will be most relevant to which customers. Assuming a rational consumer that is. An irrational consumer can be mis-served by being shown ads for things he doesn’t need, but a rational one only benefits from some third party making effort to locate ads they’ll likely respond to.
Advertisement is just networking for market information. It’s a problem when people get badly influenced, but that’s a corrupted side path. The default path is a person being connected with useful information that increases the expected net present value of their money. It changes the decision tree, and the new tree resolves to a higher expected value.
Assuming the decider’s ability to make optimal decisions on any given tree, of course.
They sharing life changing deals to you and still no tip with your rent this month. Poor landlord 😢
Yikes, that is truly disgusting.
As if the high rent is not enough income for these greedy fucks.
Why not use a fake email. I personally use duckduckgo an it gets redirected to my mail after they run some checks on the mail. I don't really care since I only use it for spam
I have plenty of fake email options - but one assumes that when communicating with your landlord, bank, lawyer, employer etc... one should use ones primary address
Yeah I see what you mean. That is fucked up. I'm gonna run off tracks but I so recommend Proton mail, you can make Google accounts forward it to Proton and what's nice is that proton dosent load attachments unless you want to, there'll be a empty place but only words will get displayed. Not helping in any way but I do wanna give them a shootout
I have three of my own domains with wildcard forwarding, a 33mail account and a bunch of spare Gmail, yahoo and Hotmail addresses