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[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just never close the tab!

Did you know: when you have enough tabs, Firefox for Android stops showing you how many there are and instead shows an infinity sign. How fun!

[–] olutukko 13 points 11 months ago

Yes becuase this happens to me every week and then I just close all at oncr without checking whats there

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

No because having more than 4 tabs open would drive me insane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The problem is I have so many tabs that I'll never open again either. Eventually I close a window to start fresh whatever the purpose of that window was for.

[–] dumpsterlid 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That is what a system like org mode is for!

A list of bookmarks is overwhelming and useless, a tree with bookmarks and info/context interwoven makes bookmarks actually worth keeping.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this specifically an Emacs thing, like for people who basically use Emacs as their operating system? It sounds interesting, but that's all I'm seeing when I search for "org mode." Frankly, Emacs intimidates me.

[–] dumpsterlid 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Frankly, Emacs intimidates me.

Absolutely, I understand that is a very normal and human response lol. I am not actually a programmer, I just use emacs for org mode.

Org mode originated in Emacs and is mostly still an Emacs thing but Org mode is at this point a bigger thing than just an Emacs utility. First and foremost Org mode is a document structure that can be totally viewed in plain text.

* Heading
-2024-01-22 Mon>
Contains an optional section followed by other subheadings.

The org file can be seen in a calendar view with all headings with an attached date/time showing up. 
The above heading would show up on > Monday the 22nd. 
Lemmy is messing up the date formatting, the date should just have mirror >'s instead of a -.

* Another Heading with no section and children headings
** TODO Sub-heading 1
... has a section, but not child subheadings. 

Also the TODO keyword makes this heading a task that will show up in a task management view called "agenda"

* Yet Another Heading

That is what org mode looks like when you view it in plaintext, all headings are lines that begin with some number of asterisks. Because of the open, easy file format a whole constellation of software and apps can interface with org files beyond Emacs. None of them are that good at the moment though sigh.

However, I really like the Emacs distribution Spacemacs. It is a nice collection of tools that work well out of the box. In emacs and in spacemacs (in spacemacs you just hit spacebar twice) you can search for commands and since lisp naming convention tends to be very specific for functions (long, english language like names) you can usually find a command you can't remember the keybinding for very easily. A lot of emacs people aggressively recommend starting from scratch with emacs and I think it makes it really intimidating but I think the advice is only good for a very specific kind of person. The rest of us? Try spacemacs or doom!

https://orgmode.org/

https://www.spacemacs.org/

https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's very cool - I appreciate the in-depth reply. It's definitely something I'll have to try to look into further. I currently use Notion as a means of organizing my life and anything I need to remember, but I've been hoping to move over to something self-hosted and open source. I think the only big drawback of doing it in Emacs, however, would be the inability to sync that data to my phone, which is a pretty important feature for me.

[–] dumpsterlid 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah there are org mobile apps but they aren’t that great yet. It is a big drawback but the advantage of not having the mental workflow keeping my life together be at the mercy of a company is just too big for me to seriously consider anything else. Also… emacs does run in termux on android but…

Emacs is a monstrosity yes, but also I know without a shadow of a doubt emacs will still be around in 20 years, I won’t have invested a bunch of my energy into a system that will one day evaporate out from under me (Evernote vibes). Emacs will be here after the end of the world, some person will be using it for programming the environmental controls and hydroponics grow rooms of their fallout bunker lol.

I joke, but this is seriously important to me, I am very ADHD and getting myself to routinely use an organizational system is like herding water and cats uphill at the same time. I really don’t want to have to migrate, I don’t think I would have the executive function spoons to migrate my organizational system if “org mode went out of business and shutdown”. I would just abandon it and not replace it with anything most likely, so that stability is vitally important in my particular case.

I currently use Notion as a means of organizing my life and anything I need to remember, but I’ve been hoping to move over to something self-hosted and open source. I think the only big drawback of doing it in Emacs, however, would be the inability to sync that data to my phone, which is a pretty important feature for me.

As a side note whatever solutions you find that work for you, it is worth checking out SyncThing for the file syncing aspect. It is a free and open source peer to peer file syncing service that is very easy to use and works on all operating systems including mobile (iOS has a paid app called möbiusync). Use a raspberry pi or your phone as an always on device to sync your other devices running SyncThing and you basically have your own little cloud file sharing setup. You dont need to set up a web server or anything that technical really.

https://syncthing.net/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Emacs is a monstrosity yes, but also I know without a shadow of a doubt emacs will still be around in 20 years

Super relevant point!

Also, Syncthing was already on my list of things to look into, so thanks for the reminder!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

What do you use for this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just put the bookmarks in folders. Articles, videos, food etc.

[–] dumpsterlid 1 points 11 months ago

That works too!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just like my Steam backlog.

But bookmarks are free...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Start bookmarking games? lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wishlist I guess would be the equivalent.

[–] MataVatnik 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lies, I revisit my porn bookmarks on the regular.

[–] Saltycracker 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Brave soul to have those bookmarked

[–] Neon 7 points 11 months ago

Brave Soul to not have them bookmarked

What if you lose them?

[–] Emerald 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

why not just download them? yt-dlp

[–] MataVatnik 1 points 11 months ago

Then I have to keep folders and it becomes a whole thing

[–] AlmightySnoo 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I tried a few years ago to be smarter about it and instead of bookmarking I'd schedule-send myself an email with the link to the article to force myself to read it when I have time. It worked for a while until it didn't and my email box is now littered with hundreds of "[MUST READ]" unread emails 👀

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I usually open them twice... The first time, and bookmark it. Then the Second time a year or two later, when I'm trying to clean out my bookmarks wondering why I saved it in the first place.

[–] LaunchesKayaks 9 points 11 months ago

Me at work when I bookmark anything I think may be useful for reference. I have to go through my bookmarks every so often because I accumulate so goddamn many.

[–] Chev 7 points 11 months ago

Every couple of years I revisite those sites and float in nostalgia. A pleasant feeling.

[–] danc4498 7 points 11 months ago

My bookmarks folder is an unorganized mess. Finding anything in it is near impossible.

[–] blazeknave 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah this community is r/adhdmemes

[–] 6mementomori 5 points 11 months ago

just do like me who keeps 200 tabs open at any time, or like my friend who one ups it and takes the tabs number to 4 digits

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I’ve started sending things to myself in email. That way I never look at them, but it doesn’t free up my precious cloud storage space when I have to reformat my hard drive.

A failure that never goes away.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I only add things to the bookmarks bar at the top so I see them and when I open a new tab they're there waiting for me. I think I only have 5 and I add and remove them so the bar doesn't get full

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

on each device i have a bookmarks folder like "ARCHIVE" or "stuff", so these whimsy bookmarks don't interfere with my actual bookmarks i need for work, games, shopping, etc. 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I have a whole hierarchy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: should have been a reply to "just keep the tab open"... Anyways, just keep the tab open. Maybe you stumble upon it again when closing some urelated tabs.

I still have tabs open from when I researched for my paper. That was... some years ago. It must be more than 3k open at this point since it was 2k already some time ago.

Fun fact: firefox many moons ago would take a veeery long time to open. That has been fixed for quite some time now. Also, I think they stopped bombarding DNS queries for every open tab... Fun times when you opened firefox and nothing would work for some time because the DNS servers temporarily blocked you.

[–] woodenskewer 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't know how you people do that. If I'm not actively working on something, game or real life, 3-5 max.

[–] Harpsist 2 points 11 months ago

I used to keep impeccable bookmarks.

Unfortunately. It was a time where book marks were ONLY on your pc. So as soon as my hard drive crashed. I lost all of them.

I only had to do this a few times before I stopped caring.

Eventually firefox allowed cloud sync. But it was to late. I e forgotten hundreds of sites.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Haha yeah. This is why I rarely bookmark these days.

[–] dis_honestfamiliar 2 points 11 months ago

Interesting comments here. I'll share my process. I browse the web in incognito (private) exclusively. If there's something I want to come back to later, I copy paste the URL into a non private window so that it becomes part of history. So, my history is filled with things I plan to come back to. Then, I bookmark things that I need to come back to more than once.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I recently made a post about just this https://lemmy.ml/post/10559407

[–] FlashMobOfOne -1 points 11 months ago

However, actual paper bookmarks are pretty awesome.