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[–] Veedem 107 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Bro, there’s not an ounce of hyperbole here. Crazy…

The proposed law

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

Jesus, that's every bit as bad as it sounds.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But what happens if their family has no ancestors from Spain?

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 11 months ago

Then they're indigenous and you know what Americans do with them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There is some hyperbole - that's an "and" not an "or". So the law wouldn't define anyone of Hispanic descent as a terrorist, just like it doesn't define non-hispanic convicted gang members as terrorists.

Still completely fucked up and racist, but the article title is slight hyperbole. And the politician is a total shitbag.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If there are people that would fall into points 2 and 3 but are in non-Hispanic gangs and because of that alone they aren't labeled as terrorists in the same way, how would this be constitutional? Not that the politicians proposing it care, but it seems like it would be struck down, or they would have to amend it to remove that sort of language. Maybe if they were claiming it was combating Mexican cartels or other criminal foreign nationals with a qualifier about nation of origin, they could try to argue that wasn't racist.

Edit: Ah I didn't read the article, as another commenter pointed out:

He said: “I apologize for using the word Hispanic, but I was not wrong. Again, these are Hispanic. Reality is they are Hispanic. There’s nothing to be ashamed with.”

Humphrey said he will go back to the bill and amend the language from “Hispanic” to “undocumented here illegally, or something like that”.

[–] mPony 5 points 11 months ago

holy sweet tapdancing Christ

[–] [email protected] 78 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was clickbaity exaggeration.

He said: “I apologize for using the word Hispanic, but I was not wrong. Again, these are Hispanic. Reality is they are Hispanic. There’s nothing to be ashamed with.”

Humphrey said he will go back to the bill and amend the language from “Hispanic” to “undocumented here illegally, or something like that”.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"I'm sorry for saying the thing, but I'm going to say it again, twice."

Sorry, not sorry.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

I also like how he laid out in real time and full disclosure the "Hispanic" -> "undocumented" pipeline and how it operates.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago

Direct extract from the S 894 US congress bill to address domestic terrorism.

“ Congress finds the following:

(1) White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States. “

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"This is a whites only state"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

"I mean, it was originally where we sent the Native Americans when we thought that part of the country wasn't worth settling, but there was oil and so we had to take it back."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Betcha a quick look at 23andMe's data breach could prove a whole bunch of them don't have a white-only DNA history.

What an out that would be!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately, that would only lead to them saying "I can't be racist, I'm 1/264th Cherokee!" and then holding up their color card to decide who to let in.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

Illegal immigrants are less than half as likely to commit a crime as American citizens. https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So much for Republicans being "tough on crime," this law would be more effective (for the purpose of fighting street crime) if they just removed the whole racist bullshit. Of course, that's not what this law is intended to do. This is some stupid political game where Republicans present a bill that is "intended" to fight street crime. Every sane person and media establishment will see and criticise it for being racist, which it is. Then Republicans and Fox can yell about how those darn woke communists "don't care about the community" and "aren't tough on crime." Also did I mention it's hella racist? Because it's hella racist.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Is that even news at this point?

[–] Godric 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought this was BS, because no way, right?

NEW LAW A new section of law to be codified in the Oklahoma Statutes as Section 1268.9 of Title 21, unless there is created a duplication in numbering, reads as follows:

Any person who:

  1. Is of Hispanic descent living within the state of Oklahoma;

  2. Is a member of a criminal street gang as such term is defined in subsection F of Section 856 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes; and

  3. Has been convicted of a gang-related offense enumerated in paragraphs one (1) through sixteen (16) of subsection F of Section 856 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, Req. No. 8450

shall be deemed to have committed an act of terrorism as such term is defined in Section 1268.1 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes. Any and all property, including real estate and personal property, conveyances, including aircraft, vehicles or vessels, monies, coins and currency, or other instrumentality used or intended to be used, in any manner or part, by said person shall be subject to forfeiture as provided in Section 1738 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes.

[–] Cerbero 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny how they never go after the white gang member whom are actually terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

If they did then they would put a target on their own backs. Can't have that now can we.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

It's bad on its face, but to make it even worse: AFAICT, the definition would apply post-hoc, so anyone who has had such a conviction ever would be liable to have their property seized, even if they weren't doing anything wrong today. Made a mistake in 1998? Terrorist.

[–] iliotropio 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

@iliotropio @throws_lemy Laughing instead of crying...

[–] werefreeatlast 5 points 11 months ago

They should read the la....they should learn more about reading first. Once they know how to read, then read the laws they proposed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The law that it has 3 requirements. Being Hispanic is a strange requirement but they are probably trying to target native Americans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

JJ is a crazy man!!