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Aye, no true Scotsman.
Things have definitions. A scotsman is a scottish person, which is why no true scotsman is about claiming someone isn't scottish for their behavior instead of simply their nationality (ignore further issues of self identity etc here).
Communism similarly has a definition and just because you claim to be one doesn't mean you are one. Just like a country isn't a democracy just because it calls itself democratic.
So what is the definition of a communist, that isn’t just “person who declares they are a communist”?
Sure, but when the Soviets weren't real communists and the Cubans aren't real communists and the Chinese aren't real communists and the Vietnamese aren't real communists and the Cambodians weren't real communists the argument starts to ring just a little bit hollow.
we're talking about the mods on lemmy.ml, not the cuban government
But they're not really communists, right? Because they did something objectionable and that would reflect poorly on communism as an ideology.
All communist countries i know of went into authoritarianism along the way. There's this weird idea that communism can be implemented through creating an authoritarian state that then abolishes itself, turns out the people in power generally don't want to give it up, who would've thought.
Fwiw I disagree with a lot of assumptions in marxism and some of the conclusions and am overall more of a social capitalist but it's pretty true that there hasn't been a truly communist country yet. But I'm fairly sure the same could be said of true pure capitalism anyway.
At least they aren’t Welsh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman