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I read about WhatsApp and how people can't part with Meta because of it, however no one on my continent uses it. Why is it so popular in the EU and other parts of the world?

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (5 children)

We're asking the opposite question outside the states. Why is text messaging so popular in the states, to the point a blue / green checkmark is cause for teenage bullying?

To provide context, WhatsApp and its ilk came along way before RCS was a thing (it existed, but nobody implemented it). They were widely adopted due to their vast improvement over existing text messaging. So the better question is, why did the states cling to text messaging and never adopted 3rd party chat apps?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I didn't mean to frame the question as a judgemental post towards WhatsApp users. I'm genuinely curious. SMS sucks, and id gladly use WhatsApp if it was popular here. Instead I resort to things like Discord or RCS chats when available.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I didn't see it as judgemental, sorry if I came off as defensive. I just wanted to provide a different viewpoint :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

From my own experience as someone living in the UK, probably two reasons, for those countries at least.

  1. Early adoption of the iPhone in the US vs UK
  2. Different price structures between US and UK

In the 2000s, most people who liked to message a lot in the UK (generally young people and teens) were on pay-as-you-go 'top up' plans where each individual message had a cost. SMS messages cost anything from 1 pence to 5 pence, and I remember on my plan, MMS (picture messages) cost a ridiculous 12 pence each! It was expensive. Most people (and especially younger people) had Android phones, and so as soon as a credible Internet-based messenger became popular, people flocked in droves to jump to it. It was WhatsApp in the UK which won that race, and it remains the de-facto messenger to this day.

Things were different in the US. The iPhone got a huge early foothold in sales, and iMessage became dominant simply by being first to market and gaining critical mass. It was also more common (versus the UK) for people to be on contract plans that had SMS and MMS included as part of the plan cost, so even for people who didn't have iPhones there was less financial incentive to dump those technologies, and SMS remained prevalent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

People who care about you might switch to signal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I'm in the US. For me, I didn't start using Whatsapp over text messaging because I didn't have a need to add and learn another app. I only started using Whatsapp when I joined social groups that insisted on it for group messaging. I still prefer messaging via Google messages over Whatsapp.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

adding another question to it, how do people using sms manage to message people while still getting all those pesky sms ads/spams? i don't use an iphone so i am wondering how iMessage handles it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I don’t understand the question. why would receiving spam interfere with messaging people?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's the right question.
Sms is actually outdated and apple is stubborn in it Usa should had migrated to a privacy friendly alternative like signal or Matrix

[–] WellroundedKi 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The average Joe uses apple and thus their per-installed apps, Joe has a wrong idea about privacy friendly or secure protocols that apps like signal or matrix have. In a near future, Joe will communicate his friends between different meta apps using the signal protocol and still will consider signal a bad choice just because its marketing is weak compared to meta in the app store. The funny thing is that I've back to use whatsapp because most of my fellow US citizens use meta instead of signal or matrix or the fediverse ¯(°_o)/¯

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The average Joe uses apple and thus their per-installed apps

Well not so much huge parts of the world where iMessage isn't used

[–] WellroundedKi 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Right, but we're talking about the popularity of text messages in the USA. And usually we don't call average Joe to someone out of the States ;)