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I was crossing a crosswalk early this morning on my way to the bus stop for work, while the walk sign was on, and the driver turned left onto a main road from a stop light and smashed into my left side. I was later told that I "flew up into the air".

It was all very much a blur and I was pretty dizzy and out of it at first, but no head trauma. Some kind lady who said she was a nurse ran to help me up and to the side of the road, and the cops and ambulance came pretty fast (I think, at least).

I was taken to the hospital and was told that I fractured my humerus head (left shoulder). They told me I may not need surgery, but we'll see what the orthopedic surgeon says during my follow-up appointment in a few days. Other than that, I just have a bunch of scrapes and bruises.

Overall, while I'm in quite a bit of pain, I'm grateful because it could've been way worse. My SO and parents are pushing to sue for pain/suffering, which I was hesitant to do until I read (online) that I wouldn't be suing the person who hit me, but their insurance company), so I guess that'll probably happen. They already found me a lawyer.

I truly have no ill-will toward that person because shit happens, it was dark, and they got out of the car immediately to call 911, so it's not like they didn't do what was right when it came down to it. I'm sure they're traumatized, and that their insurance payment will go way up... which I feel a little bad about given the state of the US rn. But I guess I don't have any control over that.

Honestly, while the whole thing was obviously pretty traumatic for me, too—and I keep replaying that moment in my head—I think I'd rather get hit by a car than hit someone with my car.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

driver turned left

A-Pillar Blindness.

It's a common thing and more people need to be made aware of it. Glad you're ok.

Definitely sue. You don't know how this will affect you long term. Years from now, a pinched nerve can render your arm un-useable.

[–] lady_maria 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh. I didn't know about a-pillar blindness. Definitely an important thing to know.

You're right, I need to look out for future me even if I feel mostly ok now.

[–] PunnyName 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Get a lawyer. Don't mention how "fine" or "okay" you might think you are. Suing the driver is going to potentially care for any future medical issues. And ideally their insurance will take the bigger hit. This is specifically the kind of time you need to sue.

[–] Today 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

My car is really bad for that. I've almost missed seeing pedestrians several times. I agree with this post - you'll likely have medical bills well beyond what they find immediately.

Edit to clarify and to say I'm really glad you're okay.

[–] mPony 6 points 8 months ago

my old car was bad for it too. I got into a habit of doing a "bob and weave" to look around the A Pillar while driving it.

I'm glad OP is okay.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I've had few occasions where the timing was just right and a car/pedestrian was perfectly hidden behind the a-pillar and then just appeared out of nowhere. There's even a famous junction in the UK that's known for being dangerous for this exact reason.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As a driver you should lean left and right to check around the A pillar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And even if you do these things are still bound to happen every now and then. Not a single human alive is capable of paying 100% attention to their surroundings 100% of the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And yet we trust almost all of them to operate a 2-ton machine on a daily basis here in the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah. And also hate the people trying to solve this by introducing self driving vehicles. Go figure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You can, but with how close the a-pillar is to your face relative to where other things are you can quite often have to move LARGE amounts to actually see shit

Luckily my current car has really good A-pillar visibility with where I normally put my head, but when I had to drive rentals for about a year when this car was in the shop I FEEQUENTLY had issues with shit being near impossible to see behind the massive bar they though was smart to put there.

Never had an issue because I was aware and careful, but if even someone who's actively aware of it can have an issue then there's a problem at the design level

[–] mPony 5 points 8 months ago

Thanks for posting that: I hadn't seen that video before. I'm glad they changed that junction to make it safer.

[–] AA5B 2 points 8 months ago

I have this on my very own street - there’s what I always think of as a T intersection at the end but in reality there is a small private road just a bit offset. There’s little enough traffic that I just never really noticed for years …. Until one day when I found myself turning into the intersection and another car magically appeared. Effing A pillar. No accident and we both handled it well, but it’s a shock when you realize you’ve had that kind of blindness on a road you drive every day

[–] kautau 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Also if the walk sign was on and the driver turned left, they drove through a red light, so they’re absolutely at fault. I mean sue either way, as this commenter said, but they broke traffic rules and could have killed OP

[–] lady_maria 8 points 8 months ago

The walk sign was on, but they also had a green light; that's how most intersections work where I live, at least. I fucking WISH pedestrians got a light cycle to ourselves. Or at least a few seconds. 😫

But the driver still should have yielded to any pedestrians according to right-of-way laws.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

No, walk signs are on in the same direction of travel.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I'm a bicycle rider who's also learning to drive - the one thing I've found is that it's very easy to end up hidden behind a driver's A pillar.

In driving lessons I try to move around in the seat more to see around them, and when I'm riding my bicycle I try and position myself in areas where I can be easily seen, using lights whenever possible to additionally provide a reflection off the road in dark conditions.

Being hidden behind the pillar is really scary because you're literally not seen at all

[–] Land_Strider 8 points 8 months ago

As someone who has been with their family day and night for about a month due to health stuff, I definitely have emphaty with the indecision about the situation.

On the one hand, some types of accidents can happen to anyone due to common variables aligning together and it is natural to chalk it up to "shit happens". Especially more so if the one causing the incident is as surprised about the incident and as cordial as possible afterwards.

On the other hand, even if you feel comparatively fine and seem to be on your way to rather quick and full recovery, you don't know if this will cause later harm, sometimes statistically known to be low as doctors would say a couple percent chance or something like that, sometimes not even considered.

You should sue for compensation without waiting for the "if things gets worse" to come to pass. It will be too late if you wait. Most people would also argue that you should take this as a "never talk to cops" thing so it would be advisable against cordially letting the driver know that you intend to take precautions about future risks by aiming for compensation, considering that it will not impact the driver's life nearly as it may impact yours on the worst case scenario. On this matter, you will have to trust your own judgement and the specific experience of lawyers, I'd say. Not fears of the bystanders that didn't see the incident, attitude of the driver, or don't have experience about how similar things turned out later.